Small bottles of toiletries equal great luxury?
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As we know from previous discussions in this forum toiletries are an important part of the luxury experience. These toiletries come often in small plastic bottles and therefore produce huge amounts of plastic waste. As there are growing concerns about plastic waste the question arises, how important are the small bottels to you in a luxury hotel? Would dispenser bottles of Aromatherapy or Le Labo be acceptable? What could be alternative solutions to reduce the palstic waste created in hotel bathrooms?
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I've noted increasing use of dispensers for body wash, shampoo and conditioners in hotel showers. The dispensers are fine providing they are out of the way. I dislike the little plastic bottles found in hotel rooms and upon arrival they are cleared off and replaced with my own products in reusable containers. This is not a tribute to the environmental gods but a desire to maintain some consistency in aroma. Scent is one of the more underrated yet powerful senses and I prefer not to smell different when travelling due to different soaps and shampoos.
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Other than those flying with carry-on only, how about bring your own shampoo and such and use none at the hotel? Is everyone dependent on hotel toiletries or they are dirty and smell bad?
Those little soaps in all hotels are too small for other than children's hands. Bring a bar of soap too.
Those little soaps in all hotels are too small for other than children's hands. Bring a bar of soap too.
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I usually take the small bottles to give away to charity (homeless shelters, etc.) but I don't mind the large dispensers. I find that they are actually more functional in the shower (no messing with small, slippery caps that are impossible to open).
However, my biggest pet peeve is when there is no bar of soap for the shower, I simply don't like using shower gel. Hotels that don't provide a bar of soap for the shower might give you a small one for the sink and I bring it back and forth between the shower and the sink. I've taken to trying to remember to always leave a travel bar of soap in my toiletry bag for this reason.
However, my biggest pet peeve is when there is no bar of soap for the shower, I simply don't like using shower gel. Hotels that don't provide a bar of soap for the shower might give you a small one for the sink and I bring it back and forth between the shower and the sink. I've taken to trying to remember to always leave a travel bar of soap in my toiletry bag for this reason.
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I have to say that while my wife and I do an incredible job here at home with regard to recycling, cloth bags for the grocery store, etc., I cannot stand the dispenser stuff in Aloft hotels. Since they are the only property that I stay at that does this, I try to remember to bring my own, which typically is something I picked up from another hotel. It's not me being cheap or not caring, it's being practical with weekly travel, and I want to carry the very least amount I can. For a while I would use my own containers, but they simply don't last more than a few trips. Much easier to use whatever the hotel has, except for Aloft.
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Not true at all. Most plastics are burned. When you say "recycle" you mean put them in a recycling bin? That basically means nothing. Many waste management companies just throw them away. Some try to ship them to other countries for recycling, and those countries are rejecting the waste.
You are also doing more harm if you throw in unclean goods and "contaminate" the other clean plastics. That means the whole lot gets thrown out. As last I heard, China was refusing most plastics but if it was below a certain amount of contamination they would take it.
You are also doing more harm if you throw in unclean goods and "contaminate" the other clean plastics. That means the whole lot gets thrown out. As last I heard, China was refusing most plastics but if it was below a certain amount of contamination they would take it.
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The vast majority of the population does not stay in luxury hotels. The vast majority of shampoo is dispensed by people at home from large containers that aren't used by a hundred other people and get refilled by a stranger.
If it concerns you that much, then take the unused product home, or donate it to charity. There are bigger issues in the world than this.
If it concerns you that much, then take the unused product home, or donate it to charity. There are bigger issues in the world than this.
If every Chinese person used the same amount as an American the world would be dead.
So, small things don't matter? Do they build up, perhaps? Maybe like how we are made of atoms?
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I like the small bottles and always take the partly-used ones home and use them at the gym. Same with the soap. (Yes, I AM frugal- more $$$ for travel.) And, if I'm in a road trip with multiple hotel stays, I may re-use the shampoo from a previous stay rather than open another.
Over 10 years ago I stayed in a hotel in Zurich that had a single dispenser in the shower, which was supposedly body wash AND shampoo. I was a little skeptical that it would do both jobs well, but supported the idea of getting rid of all the plastic mini-bottles.
Over 10 years ago I stayed in a hotel in Zurich that had a single dispenser in the shower, which was supposedly body wash AND shampoo. I was a little skeptical that it would do both jobs well, but supported the idea of getting rid of all the plastic mini-bottles.
My husband doesn't much mind the single dispenser in the shower. I don't like it at all. I find it difficult to get shower gel out of it, perhaps because I am short and have weak hands. I have always just ended up grabbing a mini bottle of shower gel from my 311 bag whenever I have encountered these dispensers.
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When I first encountered the dispensers, I thought they looked really cheap and questioned the hygiene. But since there has been more talk lately about the horrors of single use plastics, I'm changing my mind a bit. Most hotel rooms have at least 3 small bottles of product, replaced daily. Las Vegas alone has 150,000 hotel rooms, so that's 450,000 plastic bottles on a busy night. For the sake of argument, let's assume an average of 2/3 occupancy (I have no idea what the real #s are), that's over 100 million single-use bottles a year - in one city. I'm not an environmentalist by any stretch of the imagination but even I think that sounds really bad for the planet. I don't have a problem with luxury hotels providing small bottles of high-end brands as a customer gift but I think it may be time to cut them out for the vast majority of hotels who offer run-of-the-mill products.
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This is a very important point. We're being naive to think we earn good karma by putting our junk into recycle bins. Very often our trash is moved to other parts of the world, polluting them even more. Several countries -- including poorer ones -- have already taken steps in the fight against plastics by banning plastic bags. Hopefully other plastic products are not far behind. We'd do well by following their example in North America.
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As we know from previous discussions in this forum toiletries are an important part of the luxury experience. These toiletries come often in small plastic bottles and therefore produce huge amounts of plastic waste. As there are growing concerns about plastic waste the question arises, how important are the small bottels to you in a luxury hotel? Would dispenser bottles of Aromatherapy or Le Labo be acceptable? What could be alternative solutions to reduce the palstic waste created in hotel bathrooms?
I like and use these small hotel shampoo bottles. Since I stay at the same places, I have identical bottles. I can balance one upside down into the other so all the shampoo gets emptied in 2-15 minutes.
I looked in my waste. There is far, far more plastic food packaging than one small hotel shampoo bottle in my trash.
No for change. I want my small hotel shampoo bottles. This issue is a made up issue by busybodies who fail to see the real source of plastic waste.