Let’s talk about coach pax using the biz/first lavs
#76
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You have far too much time on your hands. Go volunteer at a homeless shelter and so some good and quite the entitled ranting about something that really doesn't matter.
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What would make one think that they aren't? You pay for a seat, not for access to a cabin. It's not a first class lav, it's a lav that happens to be located near the first class seats.
This is not one of the advertised privileges of flying F or J. No airline includes this privilege in the price you are paying.
I will use whatever lav is convenient for me. If there is signage or instructions from crew members saying otherwise, of course I will obey. But other than that, it's none of anyone else's business.
This is not one of the advertised privileges of flying F or J. No airline includes this privilege in the price you are paying.
I will use whatever lav is convenient for me. If there is signage or instructions from crew members saying otherwise, of course I will obey. But other than that, it's none of anyone else's business.
#78
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An airline cabin is not socialism. A business passenger paid a substantially higher price in return for better food, nicer seat, more room and not having to wait in a lengthy line for a toilet. Standing in line is reserved for the teeming masses in the rearward cabin. If they are noticed coming forward the FAs should be informed and if they do not address the problem their lack of action should be reported to their superiors.
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Toilet skankiness not people skankiness. The more people that use a toilet the worse it becomes. The state of economy toilets is terrible as so many people use the toilets. I once saw a turd on a floor once. Eew.
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As a pilot, I have had first class passengers complain to me after a flight about paxs in the back using the bathroom upfront. One lady was so obnoxious about it, she even suggested the pilots should not use "her" bathroom up front. I told her she should travel by private jet if this was such a concern for her. Personally, if you have to go, you have to go. Not allowing someone from coach to use an unoccupied bathroom in first class is simply inhumane. Especially if the bathrooms in the back are all occupied.
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The passengers in back chose "inhumane" in return for a lower price. Let them live with it. Business class passengers paid a hefty premium so that toilet will be empty when they need it.
#82
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Dude, its a curtain. Its not a do not enter. You might be misunderstanding its purpose. Its to impart an air of exclusivity to those who feel they need that (without actually providing any exclusivity).
It is one of the absolute silliest things I have seen on a plane to assuage the egos of the folks that think that stuff matters.
It is one of the absolute silliest things I have seen on a plane to assuage the egos of the folks that think that stuff matters.
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I’m just struggling to understand the degree to which some seem so outraged over this issue - I genuinely don’t get it. Mildly annoyed, sure. But the passion and anger present in this thread - WOW.
If a coach passenger using the F lavatory is the worst thing that happens in your day - then that sounds like an overall good day to me.
If a coach passenger using the F lavatory is the worst thing that happens in your day - then that sounds like an overall good day to me.
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I'm in awe. You are truly hero of the toilet revolution. Small bladders of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your long waits in line! Storm the forward cabin with the same ferocity as the Bastille! Honor the American revolution with your very own Boston Pee Party in the first class lav. Stand up for your right to piss anywhere or sit if you are so inclined.
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#88
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I'm in awe. You are truly hero of the toilet revolution. Small bladders of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your long waits in line! Storm the forward cabin with the same ferocity as the Bastille! Honor the American revolution with your very own Boston Pee Party in the first class lav. Stand up for your right to piss anywhere or sit if you are so inclined.
Safe travels, if you end up on a United flight, message me and stop by the flight deck, I'll make sure one of the FA's gets you a disposable diaper, in case one of the great unwashed from coach dare sully the first class bathroom.
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Sounds like new money....Snobbish, entitled whining about a privilege that isn’t advertised anywhere. It’s a bathroom in a metal tube, same as the one in back. Who cares you had to wait an extra minute to use it? You’ve got hours with nothing to do. If your time was actually worth anything, you’d be flying private.