Let’s talk about coach pax using the biz/first lavs
Apr 17, 2019, 6:28 pm
#61
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It use to bother me, until I matured.
Apr 17, 2019, 7:06 pm
#62
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Can we all agree this is totally unacceptable? On a flight right now. Women just waltzed up from coach, FAs never say a word. When I am in the back, I use the bathroom for my ticketed cabin, as not having to wait on line for the lav is another “perk” of being up front. Just because it might be more convenient for me to walk to the F lav than the Y one doesn’t mean I can or should. Why is it suddenly OK for coach passengers to come to a cabin they’re not seated in and use the lavs?
unless there is an exceptional reason, i don't see why they should spoil the enjoyment of the first/business class facilities.
exceptions being handicapped, broken toilets, genuine emergency, etc.
Last edited by RollAnotherFatOne; Apr 17, 2019 at 7:08 pm Reason: removed the 'c' word
Apr 17, 2019, 7:22 pm
#63
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Personal feelings of such a limited audience in this thread have little standing (except to themselves)
Do we really want to address this punitively? as that is the only way that you can force something on the passengers that don't frequent this forum.
If so, please continue, it should be interesting
Do we really want to address this punitively? as that is the only way that you can force something on the passengers that don't frequent this forum.
If so, please continue, it should be interesting
Apr 17, 2019, 7:32 pm
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Actually, on the provided Delta link, a page search for the strings "overhead", "bin" and "storage" failed to return any results. However, after poking around I discovered that if one clicked on the "COMPARE EXPERIENCES" box on that page, a window opens with a chart indicating the word "Dedicated" for Overhead Bin Space. Ditto for the provided AA link; i.e. no match on those strings. Perhaps one could verify the poster's assertion if they're willing to hunt it down.
Apr 17, 2019, 7:36 pm
#65
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Personal feelings of such a limited audience in this thread have little standing (except to themselves)
Do we really want to address this punitively? as that is the only way that you can force something on the passengers that don't frequent this forum.
If so, please continue, it should be interesting
Do we really want to address this punitively? as that is the only way that you can force something on the passengers that don't frequent this forum.
If so, please continue, it should be interesting
with this in mind, i'm not sure exacting our own punishment for wrong-doers is necessary.
i don't believe in shaming people - but people should be encouraged to do the right thing.
a lack of civility can be an indication of society falling apart, sadly.
the increasingly self-righteous nature of people makes it a challenge for people to do the right thing.
it's certainly disappointing, but an accurate portrayal of modern living.
being affected by things outside of your control is in most cases not worth your effort/stress. good luck.
Apr 17, 2019, 7:58 pm
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Apr 17, 2019, 9:28 pm
#67
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Sounds like new money....Snobbish, entitled whining about a privilege that isn’t advertised anywhere. It’s a bathroom in a metal tube, same as the one in back. Who cares you had to wait an extra minute to use it? You’ve got hours with nothing to do. If your time was actually worth anything, you’d be flying private.
Apr 17, 2019, 9:29 pm
#68
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Come on... don't take things so seriously and enjoy life.
Apr 17, 2019, 10:09 pm
#69
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DL used to announce "please use the lavatories located in the cabin for which you are ticketed" or something to that effect.
Is it a big deal if someone from Y has to come forward to use the lav? Not really. But if the entire Y cabin is tromping through F for the whole flight I'd imagine it gets old quick.
Is it a big deal if someone from Y has to come forward to use the lav? Not really. But if the entire Y cabin is tromping through F for the whole flight I'd imagine it gets old quick.
Apr 17, 2019, 10:34 pm
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Consistency from the TSA? Really?
Apr 17, 2019, 11:21 pm
#71
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Sounds like new money....Snobbish, entitled whining about a privilege that isn’t advertised anywhere. It’s a bathroom in a metal tube, same as the one in back. Who cares you had to wait an extra minute to use it? You’ve got hours with nothing to do. If your time was actually worth anything, you’d be flying private.
i don't actually seem so bothered with the facilities being used by the occasional fellow (neutral gender), but i prefer the extra space and the option to use the facilities when necessary. also, the behaviour of people to disrespect the norms and etiquette and rules is not correct. sneaking past 'security' is like shoplifting... but i'm not a tell tale, so i wouldn't report them. if they wish to be embarassed then so be it. there is often a noticeable difference between the chosen few and the unchosen many. i have to admit, i do feel entitled as i have the better ticket.
Apr 18, 2019, 12:11 am
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I fall on the side of "use the lav in your purchased cabin". On a 737, the 16:1 versus 75:1 customer to toilet ratio ratio is a perk of FC, advertised or not, plus fewer people coming through the cabin. At least on international flights the flight crew are generally keeping an eye out for curtain hoppers.
Apr 18, 2019, 4:54 am
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If you have to go... well you have to go...
I have seen FA turn away coach passengers when there is a line to use the F lavs, other then that.. who really cares?
I have seen FA turn away coach passengers when there is a line to use the F lavs, other then that.. who really cares?
Apr 18, 2019, 5:43 am
#75
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I would wait. Guy sitting next to me in F just now just got up and stood around looking antsy for 2-3 minutes while he waited to use the F lav that was occupied by another person traipsing up from coach. There’s no cart or extenuating circumstances here, just a desire to do whatever with no regard for rules or others.