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Text alert regarding delayed flight
Just curious what do most people do when you get a text alert stating your flight is delayed for 2-3 hours . Do you still show up at the airport at the original time? I know there are experiences where the airline finds another plane to make the flight on time and in most cases never sends a text that the flight is now departing on time. That should never happen as planes dont appear out of nowhere in minutes - they would have hours advanced notice (hopefully they are not bringing a plane out of the graveyard).
But my problem is my time is valuable - I cannot be expected to wait at the airport for 2+ hours without being compensated. Just like if I do not show up at the airport on time, I have to pay a penalty, the airline should pay an hourly penalty for each passenger forced to wait for the airline not showing up on time. My current instance is with southwest. I plan on going for the late departing time (not original). |
I usually get them a few hours after the plane has landed lol.
Anyhow, DON'T GO BY THE TEXT. Show up at the original scheduled time!! They can "undelay" a plane. |
generally good advice, but you can check FlightRadar24 to backtrack the jet ... WN is pretty good about keeping a plane on its scheduled routing for the day
WN also has a fair number of multi-segment flights ... notional example: WN2208 operates LAS-SJC-SNA-PHX-DEN; if you're notified that PHX-DEN is going to be 2 hours late, chances are if LAS-SJC (or anything upline from LAS) is 2 hours late, there won't be much chance of catching up during the day |
Not showing up at the original time is dangerous when the departing airport is a hub for the carrier. That's a scenario ripe for a plane swap.
In outlying stations, I try to reverse engineer where the plane is coming from, if it isn't obvious from the airline's app (United is particularly strong in this area). When I am pretty sure there is no chance for a plane swap, or the possibility of getting on another flight through a different hub, my plan of action is to arrive later than my norm, and get through security right about when the plane would board (if on time). So instead of arriving at the gate 60 minutes early, I might shoot for 35. |
I had this on last Thursday. My flight on UA to SFO from LHR was late. I got a text from them just before I went to bed, so could set my alarm for later. But I knew that the plane was coming from SFO and it couldn't possibly arrive any earlier. But UA had options: they could have cancelled this, their second and last SFO flight of the day, delayed their first and put everyone on it, then kept the plane in London, cancelling an inbound for the following day. But I checked the loads and saw that this was not really feasible. So I was safe. The moral is that you should only turn up late if you really see that the airline has no real options but to fly the original flight late.
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Looks like most people do what I already do. Yes I usually backtrack the flights and check the incoming flight and it’s schedule. The only possibility that I cannot account for is if they use a different plane. I rarely arrive to the airport for the original departure time if it’s delayed especially if I’m coming from home. I can’t see myself waiting at the airport for 3 hours. I departed from SMF so it’s not a hub for anything. The plane ended up leaving at the delayed time and I made it to the destination. |
Originally Posted by nyknicks8
(Post 30784361)
... I departed from SMF so it’s not a hub for anything. The plane ended up leaving at the delayed time and I made it to the destination.
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Hi,
A couple of years ago in Las Vegas I got a text message from BA advising that the flight back to london was delayed by 3hrs ( from 8pm to 11pm and gave a new check in closing time of 1 hr prior to the new departure time). In this case as the plane has to come in from London and it specifically mentions a new time you can get to the airport later . Regards TBS |
Originally Posted by The _Banking_Scot
(Post 30785095)
Hi,
A couple of years ago in Las Vegas I got a text message from BA advising that the flight back to london was delayed by 3hrs ( from 8pm to 11pm and gave a new check in closing time of 1 hr prior to the new departure time). In this case as the plane has to come in from London and it specifically mentions a new time you can get to the airport later . Regards TBS At LHR, however, I've had many delayed departure messages later being overridden by the sudden appearance of a substitute aircraft, just pushing ETD +15 min etc, so there is a situation where you might regret not having checked in already. |
OP has not told us anything other than just how valuable his time is.
Knowing the carrier and departure airport would help. Most carriers, including DL, UA, and AA if this is US domestic, all specify that one must be at the gate within X minutes of scheduled departure. Thus, unless you are at some small outstation where there is no realistic chance of an aircraft substitution, you put your ticket at risk if you no show and have not checked with your carrier. In particular, estimates for aircraft repair, weather, and ATC delays are all subject to change. Even at a small outstation, there may be a ground hold for the inbound flight. But, that could disappear and your 3-hour delay turn into 30 minutes in a split second. So, you have to decide whether your time is too valuable to waste waiting for a delay or waiting for the next flight. |
Originally Posted by nyknicks8
(Post 30784361)
Looks like most people do what I already do. Yes I usually backtrack the flights and check the incoming flight and it’s schedule. The only possibility that I cannot account for is if they use a different plane. I rarely arrive to the airport for the original departure time if it’s delayed especially if I’m coming from home. I can’t see myself waiting at the airport for 3 hours. I departed from SMF so it’s not a hub for anything. The plane ended up leaving at the delayed time and I made it to the destination.
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 30786410)
OP has not told us anything other than just how valuable his time is.
Knowing the carrier and departure airport would help. Most carriers, including DL, UA, and AA if this is US domestic, all specify that one must be at the gate within X minutes of scheduled departure. Thus, unless you are at some small outstation where there is no realistic chance of an aircraft substitution, you put your ticket at risk if you no show and have not checked with your carrier. In particular, estimates for aircraft repair, weather, and ATC delays are all subject to change. Even at a small outstation, there may be a ground hold for the inbound flight. But, that could disappear and your 3-hour delay turn into 30 minutes in a split second. So, you have to decide whether your time is too valuable to waste waiting for a delay or waiting for the next flight. ETA: In the initial post he said "My current instance is with Southwest". So apart from the carrier and airport, what information did he leave out? |
I've never had a text about a late flight.
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Originally Posted by Annalisa12
(Post 30788343)
I've never had a text about a late flight.
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Originally Posted by powerlifter
(Post 30789085)
Apparently, you don't use Tripit. I got off the plane in VIE and I Got a text that my plane was canceled to Amman. Went to the lounge where they booked me a hotel, taxi, and meals. plus they put me on the next plane in the morning.
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I was on UA from HNL to LAX back in October. Got a text early in the morning that the flight was delayed until 4PM (originally 7AM). Decided to head to the airport as originally planned. Sure enough, the flight was delayed. However, since we were one of the first in line, United was able to put us on a Delta flight leaving at the same time.
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I got a text about my flight delay from yesterday...they didn’t specify why it was delayed. However, even after the (admittedly short— 45 minute delay), we only landed four minutes late. Good thing itineraries often build-in taxi/extra time. |
Originally Posted by nyknicks8
(Post 30783626)
Just curious what do most people do when you get a text alert stating your flight is delayed for 2-3 hours . Do you still show up at the airport at the original time? I know there are experiences where the airline finds another plane to make the flight on time and in most cases never sends a text that the flight is now departing on time. That should never happen as planes dont appear out of nowhere in minutes - they would have hours advanced notice (hopefully they are not bringing a plane out of the graveyard).
But my problem is my time is valuable - I cannot be expected to wait at the airport for 2+ hours without being compensated. Just like if I do not show up at the airport on time, I have to pay a penalty, the airline should pay an hourly penalty for each passenger forced to wait for the airline not showing up on time. My current instance is with southwest. I plan on going for the late departing time (not original). As for aircraft substitutions, often when they "find" another aircraft, it is usually one that had arrived earlier that has already been prepped and can carry a similar number of passengers. They swap them out and voila, instant aircraft. Generally, I will arrive for the normal scheduled time. I make sure I can work remotely just in case there is a delay and I need to do something. Hence I avoid any unpleasant surprises (such as a car accident occurring after I should have arrived). I never rely on delayed inbound aircraft as the situation can change at any time. |
Originally Posted by StuckInYYZ
(Post 30844669)
I never rely on delayed inbound aircraft as the situation can change at any time.
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One other thing I forgot to mention... At least for YYZ (and likely any Canadian airport with pre-clearance)... The CBP still close at their scheduled time. They don't care if your inbound is late... If you need to clear for a flight to the US, you best get to the airport when you should... Otherwise you will be taking another flight (and possibly be a no show if you have a connecting flight onwards).
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Hub: I show up at original time. Even in the "my time is super valuable" case, modern technology allows me to work reasonably well from an airline lounge. In the "my time isn't quite *that* valuable" case, modern airline lounges allow me to drink reasonably well while I wait.
Outstation: I follow the tail and figure out what I need to do from there. Southwest will often post a delay early in the day but then the aircraft "catches up" if it proceeds through a couple hassle-free turns on its way to you. |
In a broad sense, I have never been the "cut-it-as-close-as-possible" camp. I get wanting to minimize time in the airport. I am not going to show up 8 hours early for a flight. That said, I am not going to try to arrive 5 minutes before boarding either just to avoid sitting around either. I work with people like that, and most of them frequently miss flights or get on late, losing bin space and facing seat poachers. Time is one of those things it is better to have and not need than to need and not have.
There are ALWAYS unpredictable factors...traffic delays on the way to the airport being the topmost, but other things too..a little old lady infront you in the security line who is clueless etc etc. I make sure I am there at least 2 hours before. If nothing happens, I have no problem sitting in the airport. And if there is a delay, I still operate as if the flight is on time, because things can "undelay". |
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