Is it rude to turn up to hotel breakfast 15/10/5 mins before it is due to end?
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We'll have to agree to disagree. You intimated in your first post you went in to get a 30 minute job carried out, knowing it was 15 minutes to closing time. Customers should show some respect to the business as well as the other way around (IMO) and your approach didn't. It's close to what I would call bad manners, but as you subsequently indicated you weren't sure of the closing time I'll let it go. The business' recovery did well.
I don't know what "weak sauce reasoning" is but the argument about time required for cleaning up the workshop certainly sounds like it. What if there was 15 minutes allowed for that and his bus was at 5:20pm?
I don't know what "weak sauce reasoning" is but the argument about time required for cleaning up the workshop certainly sounds like it. What if there was 15 minutes allowed for that and his bus was at 5:20pm?
I wouldn’t expect BA’s call centre to tell me at 1958 that they are in able to do my ticketing because they close at 2000 - 2000 is simply when they stop answering new calls.
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Thanks and enjoy your breakfast, if you get in on time, that is....
Thanks and enjoy your breakfast, if you get in on time, that is....
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We'll have to agree to disagree. You intimated in your first post you went in to get a 30 minute job carried out, knowing it was 15 minutes to closing time. Customers should show some respect to the business as well as the other way around (IMO) and your approach didn't. It's close to what I would call bad manners, but as you subsequently indicated you weren't sure of the closing time I'll let it go. The business' recovery did well.
I don't know what "weak sauce reasoning" is but the argument about time required for cleaning up the workshop certainly sounds like it. What if there was 15 minutes allowed for that and his bus was at 5:20pm?
I don't know what "weak sauce reasoning" is but the argument about time required for cleaning up the workshop certainly sounds like it. What if there was 15 minutes allowed for that and his bus was at 5:20pm?
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For crying out loud, even the Post Office will service people who arrive one minute before closing time. With a closing time of 5 PM, if there's 12 people already in line and another one enters at 4:59 PM, the postal workers will serve those thirteen people. A worker will lock the door so more people don't come in after 5 PM, but if it takes them 30 minutes to service the thirteen customers, they will do it.
How on Earth can a privately run business justify turning people away 15 minutes prior to closing, yet the Post Office will continue to take people into the queue at 4:59 PM?
How on Earth can a privately run business justify turning people away 15 minutes prior to closing, yet the Post Office will continue to take people into the queue at 4:59 PM?
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With regard to the oil change shop hours, obviously I can't speak for every business offering the service, but I managed stores for 3 different brands in 4 states, and every one of those had the same rule - if a customer pulled into the parking lot prior to doors down, they were serviced. It was sometimes frustrating on a Saturday when you had 6 cars in the lot at 6pm, knowing that you still had to clean up and do inventory once the last car was done, but those was the rules.
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I worked at a One Hour Photo lab in the mid/late 90s and we would often have people walk in at 5:55 pm on a Saturday where closing time was 6:00 pm demanding one hour service.
At that time of day, the store was open for drop off, pick up, and other retail purchases - film, batteries, frames, etc. If we stayed open until 7, allowing drop off until 6, where does it end?
At that time of day, the store was open for drop off, pick up, and other retail purchases - film, batteries, frames, etc. If we stayed open until 7, allowing drop off until 6, where does it end?
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Yes, in many cases they do. If someone had shown up at 10:45pm wanting food when we closed at 11pm, they would be told sorry, the kitchen is closed, as no food could be cooked and served to them before 11pm. Our licensing meant that every customer had to be off the premises by 11:20pm and I would rather say sorry, no can do, or offer drinks and a bag of crisps, than to be forced to kick them out before they had finished eating, which would be a worse experience for the customer, IMO. I frequently locked the doors at 11pm, and left a couple of minutes later, having grabbed my purse and coat - I was paid until midnight, in case we were busy, to give me time to finish up, clear out customers, and clean up, but often on quiet nights it was a case of watching the clock, then locking the door!
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I worked at a One Hour Photo lab in the mid/late 90s and we would often have people walk in at 5:55 pm on a Saturday where closing time was 6:00 pm demanding one hour service.
At that time of day, the store was open for drop off, pick up, and other retail purchases - film, batteries, frames, etc. If we stayed open until 7, allowing drop off until 6, where does it end?
At that time of day, the store was open for drop off, pick up, and other retail purchases - film, batteries, frames, etc. If we stayed open until 7, allowing drop off until 6, where does it end?
I agree with those who feel that if closing time is 10pm (e.g.) that people should only start eating if they're going to be out by 10pm. However, I agree with those that where service stops early, that this should be clearly stated.
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I worked at a One Hour Photo lab in the mid/late 90s and we would often have people walk in at 5:55 pm on a Saturday where closing time was 6:00 pm demanding one hour service.
At that time of day, the store was open for drop off, pick up, and other retail purchases - film, batteries, frames, etc. If we stayed open until 7, allowing drop off until 6, where does it end?
At that time of day, the store was open for drop off, pick up, and other retail purchases - film, batteries, frames, etc. If we stayed open until 7, allowing drop off until 6, where does it end?
Dry cleaners are usually good at posting their same-day service cutoff in addition to their open/close times.
Closing times for restaurants and bars are a bit of a different animal because they usually plan on *some* stragglers, within reason, and can do much of their clean-up if a couple people are still left finishing up. There's etiquette on the part of the establishment - not kicking you out at a precise time - and etiquette on the part of the patrons - finishing up at a reasonable time when the food/drink is no longer flowing.
One of our regular local joints has last food order at 9:30PM, taps turn off at 10:30PM, the lights gradually come on at 10:45PM, and they start playing cats meowing Christmas carols at 11PM.
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etiquette on the part of the patrons - finishing up at a reasonable time when the food/drink is no longer flowing.
One of our regular local joints has last food order at 9:30PM, taps turn off at 10:30PM, the lights gradually come on at 10:45PM, and they start playing cats meowing Christmas carols at 11PM.
One of our regular local joints has last food order at 9:30PM, taps turn off at 10:30PM, the lights gradually come on at 10:45PM, and they start playing cats meowing Christmas carols at 11PM.
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I worked at a One Hour Photo lab in the mid/late 90s and we would often have people walk in at 5:55 pm on a Saturday where closing time was 6:00 pm demanding one hour service.
At that time of day, the store was open for drop off, pick up, and other retail purchases - film, batteries, frames, etc. If we stayed open until 7, allowing drop off until 6, where does it end?
At that time of day, the store was open for drop off, pick up, and other retail purchases - film, batteries, frames, etc. If we stayed open until 7, allowing drop off until 6, where does it end?
As for breakfast, I have seen servers not happy about showing up late a few times. I think they want to clean up all the dirty plates before breakfast close. Some restaurant also need to set up the tables for lunch. I try to either eat really fast or just grab a few bread/pastry to go. I think the latest I showed up was about 10 min before closing. It is really hard to wake up early on vacation to make it to breakfast before 10am especially if there is any jet lag.
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Back when men wore suits everyday, I sold menswear on Sundays in Boston, mainly as a cheap method to supplement my workweek wardrobe. We were open Noon to 5pm. The same shop was open weeknights until 7pm, so I understood that regular customers might be confused by our different hours on Sundays. However, the manager was clear about quitting time. The registers were turned OFF at 5pm sharp, so she could finish her accounting work, which involved IIRC some kind of FTP/ flat file transfer back to HQ. She wanted to be out the door by 5:15pm.
Many times, customers would linger, and we had to hurry them to finish their shopping. Once the registers were off, the only choice was to put items on hold and come back another day. This was always explained as a technical limitation with "our point of sale system." There were some raised eyebrows from time to time, but I don't remember any conflict beyond that.
Many times, customers would linger, and we had to hurry them to finish their shopping. Once the registers were off, the only choice was to put items on hold and come back another day. This was always explained as a technical limitation with "our point of sale system." There were some raised eyebrows from time to time, but I don't remember any conflict beyond that.
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I'm amazed at the difference of opinion here. I really thought everyone would say that it is ok to come to breakfast until 09:59. I was wrong.
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Different cultures have different attitudes toward time, such as the importance (or not) of being on time for a business appointment and even when business hours start. In the USA, there are regional differences regarding the time that one should arrive at someone's home if invited for a dinner party just as there are different restaurant policies about how late one can be and not lose a dinner reservation.