Dual citizens - do you always travel with 2 passports?
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I've traveled to many countries with a U.S. passport and never had any "rogue" hassle from an immigration official because of it. Some countries' U.S. consulates are known to be pickier than others about business visas, but that's a different story.
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guys, thanks for all the answers, you all brought up very valid points. If the visa situation is the same for US/EU passport one should really stay home because you could lose it, and you won't be able to use it as an ID for the reasons aforementioned. I am currently in EU so I think I will just take my EU passport on my roundtrip to Asia next week.
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There are all kinds of situations not nearly that extreme where using one passport versus another can be to someone's advantage. As someone already said on this thread, currently there are plenty of people with a hate on for Americans for example. Having an alternative passport to use could just make life simpler in some cases. Those who happen to have dual nationality have that option and should exercise it where it makes sense to do so. Typically would be using an EU country issued passport when entering an EU country simply to avoid a longer line-up at Immigration. But if I had dual US/Canadian passports and were entering the EU, I might well choose to use the Canadiann passport rather than the US passport.
As for travelling with both as an 'all the time' thing, I can't see any reason for that. It is situation dependent whether using one might be better than using the other and situation dependent where carrying both might also make sense. For example, at one time someone from the UK needed to buy a visa to enter Turkey while someone from Canada did not. I used my UK passport to enter Greece (in the EU obviously) and then my Canadian passport when my travels took me from Greece into Turkey. Both had an advantage at different points in my travels obviously and so carrying both made sense but a trip to either only Greece or only Turkey would have made only one or the other advantageous.
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She doesn’t have to enter and exit the US on a US passport, but it tends to make it a lot easier even as it’s also allowed to enter and exist without a US passport.
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"U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States."
I don't have to enter either of my countries on mine, but like you said it does make it easier, but the US is funny like that.
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I enter the EU on my EU passport, and leave on my Canadian passport. Very rarely does anyone care, I'd say 90% of the time no one notices - Canada has never cared, it has only ever been ones that have exit controls in the EU, I got asked by the exit control in Rome where my entry stamp was last year, so simply showed my EU passport - they are very used to it.
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That's not a very smart answer at all. Which world are you living in? Try telling a fanatic hijacker that he shouldn't judge you based on your Israeli passport and choose you as the first to be shot, he should choose someone who is not as nice a person as you no doubt are.
This might be another reason why one should not carry around his second (Israeli) passport around at all times. Even if you don't end up using it the "fanatic hijackers" might find it on you...
Anyways for those who are not dual citizens and hold only one DELICATE passport like US, Israeli, etc. Have you heard of a possibility having something so-called a camouflage passport?
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If you stick to using one passport there are no problems. The problem arises when you want to switch from one to another. I have to no idea how to do that cleanly without raising attention or causing havoc in computer systems.
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I think she does - https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...tionality.html
"U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States."
I don't have to enter either of my countries on mine, but like you said it does make it easier, but the US is funny like that.
"U.S. nationals, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States."
I don't have to enter either of my countries on mine, but like you said it does make it easier, but the US is funny like that.
Until a few years ago, CBP even had an FAQ that mentioned how US dual-citizens from VWP countries could travel to the US without a US passport and use the VWP country passport to get to the US by air. And no applicable US laws and regulations in this regard have materially changed since the CBP FAQ saying that was taken down.
The following post has the CBP language from before CBP took down the FAQ answer:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29029564-post60.html
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What government websites say to make life simpler for government and others doesn’t necessarily always hold as being the only way something can be lawfully done. This is one of those examples, as the law about requiring a US passport to enter and exit the US was gutted decades ago, and even then it was full of exemptions due to the entirety of the body law applicable to the USG.
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I have never had a 'major' issue, and I do this a lot. The only thing that has ever happened (and rarely at that) is to be asked why I don't have an entry stamp, at which point I simply show the second passport. Adds maybe 20 seconds if they notice / ask. Thousands of people have dual nationality and they are well used to it.
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So again, if using more than one passport, always remember to enter and exit any given country on the same passport. You can enter on X or Y passport as you wish perhaps but don't mix them IN a country.
The USA does require all US citizens to enter and exit the USA on their US passport. That it is possible to ignore that is also not in doubt. The reason to always enter and exit the US on your US passport is again a 'what if' scenario similar to the above. It MAY cause you a problem which while not unsolvable and without fear of their gonna 'lock you up' etc. CAN mean some hassle.
I'm reminded of people who are denied boarding on a flight and then come on here and write, 'I was fully within my rights under the law and should have been boarded.' They may be right about that but the fact is the plane left the ground without them. It is not always about the law and what is legal or illegal for someone to do, it is often about what makes SENSE to do if you can do so and avoid any POSSIBILITY of hassle, lost time, etc. Spending an hour explaining to a US Border Agent how you are legally allowed to enter or exit on your other passport will COST you an hour to do so. If there is no GOOD reason for having done so, why would anyone choose to risk that happening?
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I have never had a 'major' issue, and I do this a lot. The only thing that has ever happened (and rarely at that) is to be asked why I don't have an entry stamp, at which point I simply show the second passport. Adds maybe 20 seconds if they notice / ask. Thousands of people have dual nationality and they are well used to it.
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Something else to consider is that if you want USA consular protections, you must enter the country on your USA passport. This seems to hit USA-China dual nationals especially, who typically are required to enter China on their Chinese passport, but it could apply anywhere and could be very significant if there's a major problem such as foreigners being evacuated or if you're arrested (and probably also if it's more minor, such as just wanting to renew your passport abroad or if you need to arrange for emergency funds). Maybe the other country provides better consular services to its citizens, maybe not, or maybe the second country has no presence in the place you're visiting.
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<br /><br />It's a bad habit emma69 unless you ALWAYS without fail travel with both passports. If you cannot show that entry or exit stamp when asked, what comes into play then is the DEFAULT assumption. In the case of travel, that assumption is unlike in a court of law where there is the 'presumption of innocence' and guilt must be proven. In travel, the assumption is guilt and the burden of proof falls to the traveller to prove their innocence.<br /><br />This happens with the Schengen countries all the time. Someone flies into say Paris, travels around for however long and then leaves. By your example, they might have left on a second passport and so they have an entry on one and an exit on another passport. If they then return to any Schengen country some time later, the computer will flag them as having 'overstayed' their last entry as there is no record of an exit. Now you MAY have that second passport on you and be able to show an exit stamp. You will certainly have a real problem if you don't have it with you.<br /><br />But let's suppose you do have it with you and when asked where is your exit stamp, you can say, 'Oh, I have it right here on my other passport.' Problem solved right? Well, maybe as you indicate has happened in the past to you. But let's now suppose that the Agent you get had a fight with his/her partner just before leaving for work that morning. You have now become a perfect target for her/him to take out some anger on. So when you say, 'Oh, I have it right here in my other passport', the agent says, 'please step to the side, someone will come to take you to secondary inspection, I am not going to hold up the line.'<br /><br />That's it, that's all that has to happen for you to find yourself now getting the third degree as to where and when you travelled in the past. 'What hotel did you stay in during your time in our country?' 'Do you have proof of when you left that hotel?' 'Can you show me a boarding pass for when you flew out of our country?' 'How do I know someone else didn't travel on this passport illegally?' 'Did you pack your bags yourself, we are going to go through them now.'<br /><br />Never underestimate the power a border agent has to mess up your day if they CHOOSE to do so. Unless you have a very good reason to enter on one and exit on the other, it is a far better practice to always enter and exit on the same passport. Do you have a good reason for switching them emma69? If so, what is it?<br /><br />What do you think the default thinking MIGHT be these days when an Agent sees someone using different passports when travelling?
Travelling to Canada, if I were to travel on my EU passport I would require an ESTA to enter Canada (per the airline), so I travel back to Canada on my Canadian passport, always.
Thus there is never an EU stamp in either of my passports.
There are times when I fly from a non EU country to Canada via the EU, and during those occasions I will present both passports (proof I can enter the EU, and then enter the EU on that one, and proof of onward right to travel to Canada (and use that passport when boarding the second plane in the EU)). In those instances, if they have exit controls, I use the same passport for exit as I did for entry, whichever one of the two it may be.