Women-only plane sections
Dec 7, 2018, 9:35 pm
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Dec 7, 2018, 10:40 pm
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Dec 8, 2018, 2:18 am
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Given the airport pat-down security culture in many parts of the world -- including in the US -- there seems to be something about generally wanting people subject to same-sex screeners doing the pat-downs. This is why most airports in the US have TSA trying to keep at least one female TSA screener assigned at all/most all screening checkpoint operating hours.
Dec 8, 2018, 6:25 am
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I would like it providing the lavs are separated too. Men complete their bodily functions faster than women and don't hog the facilities to apply makeup, fuss with their hair or change into their PJs on a long haul.
The problem however would be the overhead bins. Rarely is there a flight where there isn't at least one weak/short woman who cant get her bag into the overhead. I have yet to see a weak woman ask another woman for help. Instead they impose on some tall and robust man to help them. If we aren't nearby whatever will the ladies do?
The problem however would be the overhead bins. Rarely is there a flight where there isn't at least one weak/short woman who cant get her bag into the overhead. I have yet to see a weak woman ask another woman for help. Instead they impose on some tall and robust man to help them. If we aren't nearby whatever will the ladies do?
Dec 8, 2018, 7:24 am
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I think it's similar in many countries that a woman has a right to a female screener. That also goes for body searches by the police.
Dec 8, 2018, 9:53 am
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I believe in Germany, there is a law that gives you the right to a same-sex screener. So there are always male and female screeners around.
I think it's similar in many countries that a woman has a right to a female screener. That also goes for body searches by the police.
I think it's similar in many countries that a woman has a right to a female screener. That also goes for body searches by the police.
I would like it providing the lavs are separated too. Men complete their bodily functions faster than women and don't hog the facilities to apply makeup, fuss with their hair or change into their PJs on a long haul.
The problem however would be the overhead bins. Rarely is there a flight where there isn't at least one weak/short woman who cant get her bag into the overhead. I have yet to see a weak woman ask another woman for help. Instead they impose on some tall and robust man to help them. If we aren't nearby whatever will the ladies do?
The problem however would be the overhead bins. Rarely is there a flight where there isn't at least one weak/short woman who cant get her bag into the overhead. I have yet to see a weak woman ask another woman for help. Instead they impose on some tall and robust man to help them. If we aren't nearby whatever will the ladies do?
Dec 8, 2018, 10:11 am
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You do however outline a couple of other distinct benefits of having the women in the back. Fewer kids and more room in the overhead bins for us. Women tend to be among the worst offenders for too much stuff -- carry-on, personal item, monster purse, huge duty free bag. And further away from squalling infants is always better. Instead of dad having to help mom with a crying baby he can order another beer and relax.
Dec 8, 2018, 10:16 am
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I've been asked to help lift a bag and always do. Not one woman has ever asked my wife if she's traveling with me. They ask me.
You do however outline a couple of other distinct benefits of having the women in the back. Fewer kids and more room in the overhead bins for us. Women tend to be among the worst offenders for too much stuff -- carry-on, personal item, monster purse, huge duty free bag. And further away from squalling infants is always better. Instead of dad having to help mom with a crying baby he can order another beer and relax.
You do however outline a couple of other distinct benefits of having the women in the back. Fewer kids and more room in the overhead bins for us. Women tend to be among the worst offenders for too much stuff -- carry-on, personal item, monster purse, huge duty free bag. And further away from squalling infants is always better. Instead of dad having to help mom with a crying baby he can order another beer and relax.
Dec 8, 2018, 10:38 am
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Life can certainly suck for women, but undeniably in the Western world they have a number of concessions that are not available to males.
Dec 8, 2018, 10:49 am
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Not my experience on long haul flights. Most men with infants were part of a couple and not on their own. A womans-only section won't reduce proximity to children entirely but it will reduce it significantly.
Dec 8, 2018, 11:28 am
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I recall some male FTer claiming they liked the option of having their pat-down done by female screeners at CPH (and perhaps some other Nordic/Scandinavian country airports). But I don't find many opposite-sex pat-downs going on in this area either, even as I've seen some of course.
Dec 8, 2018, 11:56 am
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Dec 8, 2018, 4:29 pm
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Comparing individual to individual, maybe. Maybe
But on the average flight I find myself on, the worst offenders are the "businessmen", who pack on a full size rollaboard, briefcase/backpack, CPAP, and a suit jacket or raincoat, and then fill up a whole bin with their stuff, barely leaving enough room to close the door around their frequent traveler "brag tags".
I bet the ratio of men like that to the women that you describe is easily 10:1