reducing infection risk
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Thanks. I've taken malaria pills a few times but wasn't aware of the shots. I'd be concerned about side effects because I don't react well to the pills. I stopped taking them on a couple of trips having concluded that even though I was 100 kilometers inside the CDC's malarial zone the risk was low because I was working in a small town during the dry season and was well supplied with DEET.
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Thanks. I've taken malaria pills a few times but wasn't aware of the shots. I'd be concerned about side effects because I don't react well to the pills. I stopped taking them on a couple of trips having concluded that even though I was 100 kilometers inside the CDC's malarial zone the risk was low because I was working in a small town during the dry season and was well supplied with DEET.
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I too wipe down the armrests, tray table, seatbelt buckles and any buttons (including seatback monitors), as do the rest of my family.
But I hardly ever see anyone else do this. Worse, sometimes I get the stares (sneers?) when doing this.
But I hardly ever see anyone else do this. Worse, sometimes I get the stares (sneers?) when doing this.
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Just keep your wet wipes to yourself. I once had a woman who upon taking her seat beside me start maniacally wiping down everything around her like some sort of charwoman on meth. I agreed to her request to raise my arm so she could clean our shared armrest but drew the line when she demanded to wipe down MY tray table and screen. I resisted the temptation to cough in her general direction during the flight.
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Just keep your wet wipes to yourself. I once had a woman who upon taking her seat beside me start maniacally wiping down everything around her like some sort of charwoman on meth. I agreed to her request to raise my arm so she could clean our shared armrest but drew the line when she demanded to wipe down MY tray table and screen. I resisted the temptation to cough in her general direction during the flight.
Of course I don't do that, and I try to do the wipe thing quickly and discreetly. Even then, I sometimes have people give me weird looks. I really hate that. Do I seem that strange and OCD to be wiping down things that are known to be filled with germs? I wish more people did the wipe-down so I don't stand out, but apparently most Americans don't think about these things.
#23
I take immuno suppression medications, thus I am more susceptible to get something.
I use disinfectant wipes and wipe the armrest, table, handles, screen, etc ...
I wash my hands and disinfect them before eating, do the same after going to the toilet.
I wear a mask on flights longer than 3 hours, or if I have a sick looking neighbor on shorter ones. I use one from Vogmask
I fly business if possible, but it is always a compromise.
Touching wood, I never got really sick after a flight (caught some short lived fever or dry cough a few times though).
I use disinfectant wipes and wipe the armrest, table, handles, screen, etc ...
I wash my hands and disinfect them before eating, do the same after going to the toilet.
I wear a mask on flights longer than 3 hours, or if I have a sick looking neighbor on shorter ones. I use one from Vogmask
I fly business if possible, but it is always a compromise.
Touching wood, I never got really sick after a flight (caught some short lived fever or dry cough a few times though).
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I'm a bit a of a germaphobe but I gave up on worrying about all of this when traveling. I've slowed down and only average 60-70 flights/year. Past years I was averaging 140 flights/year, and more time in hotels that I can even recall. What amazed me is that during that time I never got sick, and can only assume my immune system was working well.
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That's kind of crazy for this woman to try to wipe down your tray/screen.
Of course I don't do that, and I try to do the wipe thing quickly and discreetly. Even then, I sometimes have people give me weird looks. I really hate that. Do I seem that strange and OCD to be wiping down things that are known to be filled with germs? I wish more people did the wipe-down so I don't stand out, but apparently most Americans don't think about these things.
Of course I don't do that, and I try to do the wipe thing quickly and discreetly. Even then, I sometimes have people give me weird looks. I really hate that. Do I seem that strange and OCD to be wiping down things that are known to be filled with germs? I wish more people did the wipe-down so I don't stand out, but apparently most Americans don't think about these things.
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Of course I don't do that, and I try to do the wipe thing quickly and discreetly. Even then, I sometimes have people give me weird looks. I really hate that. Do I seem that strange and OCD to be wiping down things that are known to be filled with germs? I wish more people did the wipe-down so I don't stand out, but apparently most Americans don't think about these things.
The perception of the risk of infections from flying seems mostly based on anecdotal evidence. I'd love to see any studies done on the topic.
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That's kind of crazy for this woman to try to wipe down your tray/screen.
Of course I don't do that, and I try to do the wipe thing quickly and discreetly. Even then, I sometimes have people give me weird looks. I really hate that. Do I seem that strange and OCD to be wiping down things that are known to be filled with germs? I wish more people did the wipe-down so I don't stand out, but apparently most Americans don't think about these things.
Of course I don't do that, and I try to do the wipe thing quickly and discreetly. Even then, I sometimes have people give me weird looks. I really hate that. Do I seem that strange and OCD to be wiping down things that are known to be filled with germs? I wish more people did the wipe-down so I don't stand out, but apparently most Americans don't think about these things.
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Thank you for the pointers to the studies. They're interesting, and they confirm that various surfaces in airports / airplanes have nasty germs of different kinds. I accept that. What I haven't seen more about (beyond anecdotal accounts) is whether any of it matters. Surely there are similar concentrations of germs in coffee shops, subways and trains, conference rooms in busy office buildings, elevators, cafeterias, etc. etc. The question relevant for the context of flying is, is the risk posed by germs in airplanes significantly higher than the risk from similar exposure in our normal workday situations. If yes, maybe it's worth taking additional precautions to wipe down every surface, wear masks, etc. Otherwise, you have to ask, if you can live without wiping down door handles and elevator buttons and stairway handrails at every opportunity, why can't you deal with the similar risk in an airplane without wiping surfaces down. At least, that's the way I think about this - it's relative risk, not about absolute contamination levels. I also accept that people have very different needs and personal situations and for some it may be imperative to be sure that the surfaces around them are wiped down. But on the other hand maybe my comments help explain why some of us don't bother to wipe down everything, or indeed, anything.