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Europa Sep 13, 2018 8:44 pm

Does anyone currently hold 4+ citizenships?
 
Hi, I'm new on here so I'm not sure if I'm starting this thread in the correct forum but; I was wondering if anyone on here happened to be the citizen of four or more countries. If so, of which countries and how were they obtained? I for some reason have recently grown rather curious about the subject of multiple citizenship and while I suppose holding three citizenships concurrently is still fairly rare I was wondering how common it is for it to go above that.

tomvoldemort Sep 13, 2018 10:06 pm

I have Singaporean (by birth), German (parent), Canadian (school and work) and US (marriage) citizenships

MSPeconomist Sep 13, 2018 10:12 pm

It's supposedly possible to "buy" citizenships in some countries. I once saw a list of places where this was easy/relatively cheap. Other countries offer citizenship if you're willing to invest some amount (or otherwise create jobs) in a new business there, IIRC including Canada.

tentseller Sep 14, 2018 12:30 am

I have 6. I claimed all that I am entitled to.
Some believe in having a plan B. I have plan F.

As to which one and how they were obtained:
"I can tell you, but, I am going have to kill you."

thebigben Sep 14, 2018 4:27 am

I don't have that many, but I have two (Swiss and Canadian) from birth, and will have another one from emigrating to the UK in a couple of years if all goes well.

At my age, there's still room to get a couple from marriage and couple more from emigrating again...

Europa Sep 14, 2018 10:33 am

and here I was about to ask which ones ��

Europa Sep 14, 2018 10:35 am


Originally Posted by tomvoldemort (Post 30201805)
I have Singaporean (by birth), German (parent), Canadian (school and work) and US (marriage) citizenships

that's sounds like a very useful combination! do you find it difficult to maintain singaporean citizenship considering their policy on dual nationality?

g289t Sep 14, 2018 11:26 am


Originally Posted by tomvoldemort (Post 30201805)
I have Singaporean (by birth), German (parent), Canadian (school and work) and US (marriage) citizenships

You have very valuable citizenships! All four of those are among the world's most powerful passports.

Sisyphus1carus Sep 14, 2018 11:44 am


Originally Posted by tentseller (Post 30202071)
I have 6. I claimed all that I am entitled to.
Some believe in having a plan B. I have plan F.

As to which one and how they were obtained:
"I can tell you, but, I am going have to kill you."

Hopefully none of them reinstate conscription !

hotturnip Sep 14, 2018 1:51 pm

I have a friend whose kids (could) have 5.

Mother from S. Africa, but Jewish and naturalized American (South Africa, Israel), father from U.S., but born in France (France, U.S.) and the twins were actually born in Canada.

tentseller Sep 14, 2018 7:33 pm


Originally Posted by Sisyphus1carus (Post 30203861)
Hopefully none of them reinstate conscription !

Tax liability is a bigger concern for choosing passports and residency.

sgent Sep 18, 2018 11:32 pm

Taxes are only an issue for US and Estonian citizens. Everyone else goes by residency.

GUWonder Sep 19, 2018 3:38 am


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 30201821)
It's supposedly possible to "buy" citizenships in some countries. I once saw a list of places where this was easy/relatively cheap. Other countries offer citizenship if you're willing to invest some amount (or otherwise create jobs) in a new business there, IIRC including Canada.

It really is possible to buy citizenship from some countries and to get such status with little to no physical presence required by the applicant for citizenship by investment type programs.

A lot more countries have residency by investment type programs than citizenship by investment type programs. Canada doesn't offer citizenship by investment, but it offers residency by investment that puts the person on a path for applying for citizenship -- much like we have a residency by investment type program in the US too.

I know some people who hold 4+ citizenships, but unsurprisingly I know a lot more people who hold two or three citizenship than four or more. Most of those holding 2-4+ citizenships are products of circumstances of birth and or moving/marriage.

Most people who take up the citizenship by investment path seem to only buy one citizenship by way of CIPs.

ilcannone Oct 27, 2018 6:31 am

I've only got 2 myself, but I knew a guy who had Latvian, Russian, Israeli and British, not sure how he got each one mind you. The husband of a friend of mine has Belarusian, (birth), Russian (no idea how), Brazilian (marriage) and US (naturalisation).

invisible Oct 27, 2018 8:26 am


Originally Posted by tomvoldemort (Post 30201805)
I have Singaporean (by birth), German (parent), Canadian (school and work) and US (marriage) citizenships

In your place, I would be very careful making any such statement in public (including writing anything over internet), especially when you are in Singapore. Singapore, if you probably are not aware, does not allow additional citizenship for people who got them after age of 21. There is more than enough information available about this - just google.

And yes, when it is time to have your Singapore citizenship renewed, you should do it inside Singapore and not at overseas missions, otherwise you will have to answer a question how you can stay that long in a foreign country without having valid visa in your Singapore passport. But even if you come to Singapore to renew your passport at ICA you have to answer a question in the application form if you have other citizenship(s).

And oh yes, if you are male and have not done NS, you'd better do not come to Singapore at all, because you are guaranteed to put in jail. There were multiple high publicity NS defaulter cases in recent years the most recent one is with the author of Crazy Rich Asians.


Originally Posted by Europa (Post 30203606)
that's sounds like a very useful combination! do you find it difficult to maintain singaporean citizenship considering their policy on dual nationality?

Above. If you are quiet and have stuff well-planed with reasonable explanations, it is possible to have Singaporean citizenship in addition. But I doubt that it will last for forever. With Big Data and IDA plans, one day one can get really nasty surprise...


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