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Old Jul 10, 2018, 9:23 am
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C Series jet to be renamed A220

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...s-a220-450072/

Full integration into the Airbus brand, not to mention Airbus will now have a degree of political clout in Canada.
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Old Jul 12, 2018, 7:55 am
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These appear to be similar size/range to the E175/190, right?

Nice-looking airplanes. Would love to see more of these and fewer CR-7's.
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Originally Posted by pinniped
These appear to be similar size/range to the E175/190, right?

Nice-looking airplanes. Would love to see more of these and fewer CR-7's.
Slightly larger, but yes. Beautiful aircraft, seen a few of LX’s.
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Old Jul 14, 2018, 7:23 am
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This news is several months old actually. It is how Bombardier sidestepped Boeing's churlish unfair-international-competition complaint about the C-Series.

Boeing had / has no product to put up against the C Series; they just keep flogging 737 variants to everyone. So they schemed to bar the CS from the US with overheated claims of unfair competition.

Airbus already has its flag planted on US soil; they assemble A320s in Alabama. By acquiring slight majority interest in the CS, doing this quick deft rebrand, and moving final assembly of components down to AL from Canada, they circumvent US tariffs, make the CS (A220) cleanly available to DL and B6 and maybe UA, and kick Boeing in the teeth.

Bombardier outfoxed Boeing, pure and simple. And whatever you call the airplane, A220 or C-300 or Bob or Carol or Ted or Alice, it is a great entrant in the 100-125 pax, medium-range, transcon-capable space for which Boeing has no rejoinder.
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Originally Posted by pinniped
These appear to be similar size/range to the E175/190, right?

Nice-looking airplanes. Would love to see more of these and fewer CR-7's.
They will replace JetBlue's Embraers. They are slightly larger, with much greater range; the A220-300 lists a range of about 3600nm. They are therefore not an apples-to-apples replacement for the CR7/CR9.
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Old Jul 14, 2018, 6:30 pm
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They will replace JetBlue's Embraers. They are slightly larger, with much greater range; the A220-300 lists a range of about 3600nm. They are therefore not an apples-to-apples replacement for the CR7/CR9.
They are also 2-3 seating in 18" wide seats vs. 2-2 seating in 6" wide seats in the Devil's Chariots.
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Old Jul 15, 2018, 9:27 am
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Also, the default configuration suggests that the middle seats are wider than the window/aisle seats.
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Business class may be similar to E-Jets?
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Business class may be similar to E-Jets?
J will be in a 2-2 configuration, so much narrower than 737s or A320s, so somewhere along the lines of an E jet J seat.
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J will be in a 2-2 configuration, so much narrower than 737s or A320s, so somewhere along the lines of an E jet J seat.
Wiki says the A220/C-Series cabin is 6.6"/17cm wide than in a DC-9. I'd consider it a modern update of the DC-9/MD-80/717.
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Old Jul 22, 2018, 5:07 am
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These appear to be similar size/range to the E175/190, right?
Nope. Significantly larger and longer range. The -100 starts at ~110 seats while the -300 can get as high as 160 seats or so. Don't expect to see too many A319s sold going forward.
Originally Posted by BearX220
This news is several months old actually. It is how Bombardier sidestepped Boeing's churlish unfair-international-competition complaint about the C-Series.
Yes and no. The deal was partly driven by this and partly because Bombardier couldn't get the traction it needed to really sell the product. As for the Alabama assembly, that's only necessary for the -300 series vis a vis tariffs. The -100s assembled in Mirabel will fly for Delta in the very near future. The JetBlue and "Moxy" -300s will be assembled in Mobile starting in 2020ish.

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