I hate business travelers.
Jun 3, 2018, 10:40 pm
#346
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Standing single file holding your child's hand and explaining why you’re both doing that, pointing out the space you're leaving for other people to pass if they want or need to, is how you teach your child to be aware and considerate of other people. It’s part of parenting. It’s how you don’t raise kids who think they’re the center of the universe. It doesn’t matter if there are signs or not. It’s just common courtesy. Like you don’t stop and open a big map in the middle of a busy, crowded sidewalk. You step out of the way first. You don’t need signs for that either. Being aware of other people and being considerate. Teachable moments.
Jun 4, 2018, 3:29 am
#347
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I like to understand the mindset of those displaying what to me is strange behaviour.
I take the entire journey as a time to relax. After the moving walkway, your relaxing could be on a hard plastic seat at the gate. Yes, it could be on a beach but if an extra 30 seconds on a beach is so critical I would have got an earlier flight.
I take the entire journey as a time to relax. After the moving walkway, your relaxing could be on a hard plastic seat at the gate. Yes, it could be on a beach but if an extra 30 seconds on a beach is so critical I would have got an earlier flight.
Jun 4, 2018, 5:33 am
#348
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For the little traveled leisure travelers out there, here is why walking on the travelator, getting through security quicker, using fast track lines, bringing carryon and never checking (or at least as little as possible matters:
If you travel twice a year and arrive 3 hours before the flight, take your time for everything, check your bags, that is your right, it adds perhaps costs you an extra 12 hours to your four one way flights, and you may need that time to figure out all the really confusing aspects of your travel. It has no impact on your life in reality.
If you average 118 flights a year for two decades (let's say 120 to make the numbers even), a savings of 2 hours per flight, means a savings of 240 hours per year, or quite literally 10 DAYS, over a 20 year period this is a savings of 200 DAYS. This is NOT insignificant, and why VFF's especially those familiarwith a route/airport/airline do not show up at the airport earlier than they have to, do not want to check-in bags, have the temerity to want to walk on the travelators, etc.
If you travel twice a year and arrive 3 hours before the flight, take your time for everything, check your bags, that is your right, it adds perhaps costs you an extra 12 hours to your four one way flights, and you may need that time to figure out all the really confusing aspects of your travel. It has no impact on your life in reality.
If you average 118 flights a year for two decades (let's say 120 to make the numbers even), a savings of 2 hours per flight, means a savings of 240 hours per year, or quite literally 10 DAYS, over a 20 year period this is a savings of 200 DAYS. This is NOT insignificant, and why VFF's especially those familiarwith a route/airport/airline do not show up at the airport earlier than they have to, do not want to check-in bags, have the temerity to want to walk on the travelators, etc.
Jun 4, 2018, 7:05 am
#349
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This. I usually walk beside the walkway. Sometimes I walk on it. Very infrequently I stand on it. I have reasons for all three choices, but who cares? And if I share my reasons, someone will probably argue with me and tell me why my personal preference is totally wrong. 
Jun 4, 2018, 8:43 am
#352
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It depends on the position. I was replying to the person who said he doesn't want to be talked to on the airplane and doesn't want to be talked to on the hotel and just wanted to be left alone. That doesn't seem like the person has any social skills at all or if the do they are not social at all.
That's rich.Sometimes I'm chatty on airplanes. Sometimes I'm not. I respect that I may have a seatmate with either preference. Normal, socially-adjusted people can take cues and know when to talk and when to be quiet.
Following the logic of the OP, what about the customer who purchased the product of your client, are they not the ones that actually paid for your travel to be there? What if you are a customer? But wait, they paid with money they earned, so does that mean the rewards belong to their employers? That is why the argument is illogical.
This. I usually walk beside the walkway. Sometimes I walk on it. Very infrequently I stand on it. I have reasons for all three choices, but who cares? And if I share my reasons, someone will probably argue with me and tell me why my personal preference is totally wrong.
Jun 4, 2018, 9:37 am
#353
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For the little traveled leisure travelers out there, here is why walking on the travelator, getting through security quicker, using fast track lines, bringing carryon and never checking (or at least as little as possible matters:
If you travel twice a year and arrive 3 hours before the flight, take your time for everything, check your bags, that is your right, it adds perhaps costs you an extra 12 hours to your four one way flights, and you may need that time to figure out all the really confusing aspects of your travel. It has no impact on your life in reality.
If you average 118 flights a year for two decades (let's say 120 to make the numbers even), a savings of 2 hours per flight, means a savings of 240 hours per year, or quite literally 10 DAYS, over a 20 year period this is a savings of 200 DAYS. This is NOT insignificant, and why VFF's especially those familiarwith a route/airport/airline do not show up at the airport earlier than they have to, do not want to check-in bags, have the temerity to want to walk on the travelators, etc.
If you travel twice a year and arrive 3 hours before the flight, take your time for everything, check your bags, that is your right, it adds perhaps costs you an extra 12 hours to your four one way flights, and you may need that time to figure out all the really confusing aspects of your travel. It has no impact on your life in reality.
If you average 118 flights a year for two decades (let's say 120 to make the numbers even), a savings of 2 hours per flight, means a savings of 240 hours per year, or quite literally 10 DAYS, over a 20 year period this is a savings of 200 DAYS. This is NOT insignificant, and why VFF's especially those familiarwith a route/airport/airline do not show up at the airport earlier than they have to, do not want to check-in bags, have the temerity to want to walk on the travelators, etc.
Temerity............LOL !!
Every airport I have been in has signs on the moving "walkways" (notice the quotations to denote they are not called standways) that say........WALK ON THE LEFT AND STAND ON THE RIGHT.........the choice is yours.
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Jun 4, 2018, 10:29 am
#354
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If you average 118 flights a year for two decades (let's say 120 to make the numbers even), a savings of 2 hours per flight, means a savings of 240 hours per year, or quite literally 10 DAYS, over a 20 year period this is a savings of 200 DAYS. This is NOT insignificant, and why VFF's especially those familiarwith a route/airport/airline do not show up at the airport earlier than they have to, do not want to check-in bags, have the temerity to want to walk on the travelators, etc.
Jun 4, 2018, 12:47 pm
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I never took it to that extreme by doing the calculation you did, but I have been doing that frequency of flights for almost one decade. You did make me look up and learn a new word today though........
Temerity............LOL !!
Every airport I have been in has signs on the moving "walkways" (notice the quotations to denote they are not called standways) that say........WALK ON THE LEFT AND STAND ON THE RIGHT.........the choice is yours.
Temerity............LOL !!
Every airport I have been in has signs on the moving "walkways" (notice the quotations to denote they are not called standways) that say........WALK ON THE LEFT AND STAND ON THE RIGHT.........the choice is yours.
Jun 4, 2018, 1:54 pm
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I was trying to figure out how one could fly so often, but I guess if you did a flight in the am with a return on the evening every day (5 days a week for 52 weeks) you could get to 560 flights. I did not think about connecting flights or segments though, but still - holy cow that is a LOT of flying!
Jun 4, 2018, 2:03 pm
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I was trying to figure out how one could fly so often, but I guess if you did a flight in the am with a return on the evening every day (5 days a week for 52 weeks) you could get to 560 flights. I did not think about connecting flights or segments though, but still - holy cow that is a LOT of flying!
Jun 4, 2018, 2:14 pm
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Jun 4, 2018, 2:28 pm
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The numbers I posted were my average, my average flight length is just about 2500 miles, its actually the same average over 26 years, but thought 20 was a more powerful message. Pinniped, pilots do NOT generally fly as much as working pilots, but often do when factoring in positioning, deadheading and leisure travel.
