Top Airport Complaint
#31
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Los Angeles
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Aside from the TSA Theater that's already been mentioned, and the lack of outlets/places to charge (slowly improving), one of my main complaints is the restroom entrances/exits. Most of them were designed at a time when you could leave your bag at the gate and go to the restroom without causing a terminal evacuation. If you're a solo traveler, you have to carry your bags in, and many of the entrances are sized so that two unladen people can pass each other entering/leaving, but two people with personal items and carry-ons don't really pass very well.
And the whole liquids thing. I've been traveling dehydrated most of the time since it all started - I used to bring a 2 L bottle of seltzer for a transcon. They usually don't even sell seltzer in the airside concessions (grrr!) and they want criminal prices for still water, anyway, and you can't always find a place to fill your own bottle if you remember to bring one.
eta: and for LAX, the last mile or so of getting into the airport. It used to be bad but manageable, but with the increased passenger volume and increased number of vehicles going into the loop, the last mile has become a nightmare.
#32
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This, though it's not just a UK thing. For instance, last time I flew through PVR I went through two duty free shops to get to my gate.
#33
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Scotland
Programs: Star Alliance
Posts: 476
I think my main complaint about airports, especially in Europe is that they are specifically designed and setup to do nothing but rip off the passengers.
It's really amazing how you can be charged money for every little thing here but then go to airports like SIN or HKG and everything is either free or very cheap.
It's really amazing how you can be charged money for every little thing here but then go to airports like SIN or HKG and everything is either free or very cheap.
#34
Moderator: UK and Ireland & Europe
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Biggleswade
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I think my main complaint about airports, especially in Europe is that they are specifically designed and setup to do nothing but rip off the passengers.
It's really amazing how you can be charged money for every little thing here but then go to airports like SIN or HKG and everything is either free or very cheap.
It's really amazing how you can be charged money for every little thing here but then go to airports like SIN or HKG and everything is either free or very cheap.
#35
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1
Airport complaints
Airports in USA are horribly filthy. So much cleaner in Europe. The seats are disgusting and if one does not belong to an airport lounge and the plane is delayed one suffers. Planes are always delayed. The seating areas are overcrowdedandsoepeople take up several seats with their luggage. Rude gate staff. Over priced food. Some very difficult to navigate such asMiami and Atlanta. Overall a nasty experience.
#36
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: NYC-BNA
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Posts: 657
Indeed, dirty bathrooms and also smelly bathrooms, mainly due to inadequate ventilation. There's nothing like getting off a redeye and enduring the disgusting stench of 100's of other people's 'early morning movements' all mingled together.
Water-less urinals.... They just don't work and I don't want to smell other peoples piss.
Since I am on a restroom tirade. Small stalls. Look, I am travelling, I have multiple bags with me. I hate squeezing into a stall and rubbing against the dumper, walls or door to fit myself into an inadequate space.
Also people people who never learned to read. 'Stand on the right, walk on the left.' It's not that freaking hard....
Signage can often be an issue. Either inadequate or confusing.
I also find most airports to be too darn hot. Especially in Asia and Europe.
Brand new car rental facilities that feel like they are in another state, and shuttle busses grinding backwards and forwards between the terminal and the facility. Why not have a proper train link? Specifically DEN and BWI come to mind.
Finally lounges can sometimes be very hard to find. It sometimes feels like the airport management don't want to help you find them...
Water-less urinals.... They just don't work and I don't want to smell other peoples piss.
Since I am on a restroom tirade. Small stalls. Look, I am travelling, I have multiple bags with me. I hate squeezing into a stall and rubbing against the dumper, walls or door to fit myself into an inadequate space.
Also people people who never learned to read. 'Stand on the right, walk on the left.' It's not that freaking hard....
Signage can often be an issue. Either inadequate or confusing.
I also find most airports to be too darn hot. Especially in Asia and Europe.
Brand new car rental facilities that feel like they are in another state, and shuttle busses grinding backwards and forwards between the terminal and the facility. Why not have a proper train link? Specifically DEN and BWI come to mind.
Finally lounges can sometimes be very hard to find. It sometimes feels like the airport management don't want to help you find them...
#37
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Wesley Chapel, FL
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Airports in USA are horribly filthy. So much cleaner in Europe. The seats are disgusting and if one does not belong to an airport lounge and the plane is delayed one suffers. Planes are always delayed. The seating areas are overcrowdedandsoepeople take up several seats with their luggage. Rude gate staff. Over priced food. Some very difficult to navigate such asMiami and Atlanta. Overall a nasty experience.
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#38
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Coastal CT
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Posts: 55
Heat and space
Two major gripes that seem to be universal in the US and widespread overseas:
1) Heat or cooling are set for the convenience of the employees, not the passengers. Particularly bad in winter when travellers all have winter coats and the employees are in shirtsleeves, with the heat set to suit
2) Nowhere seems to have been designed for carry-on luggage. None of the restaurants, bathrooms, lounges have any accommodation for luggage. Even before checkin, the assumptions seems to be that we are rolling up with a briefcase. For instance, the air train at EWR has elevators that accommodate a single wheelchair or luggage cart, so you can wait 15-20 minutes to get between the air train platform and the terminal. Every restaurant or bar has tables packed close together and nowhere to store bags while you are sitting or eating.
1) Heat or cooling are set for the convenience of the employees, not the passengers. Particularly bad in winter when travellers all have winter coats and the employees are in shirtsleeves, with the heat set to suit
2) Nowhere seems to have been designed for carry-on luggage. None of the restaurants, bathrooms, lounges have any accommodation for luggage. Even before checkin, the assumptions seems to be that we are rolling up with a briefcase. For instance, the air train at EWR has elevators that accommodate a single wheelchair or luggage cart, so you can wait 15-20 minutes to get between the air train platform and the terminal. Every restaurant or bar has tables packed close together and nowhere to store bags while you are sitting or eating.
#40
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Location: San Diego, CA
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Airports in USA are horribly filthy. So much cleaner in Europe. The seats are disgusting and if one does not belong to an airport lounge and the plane is delayed one suffers. Planes are always delayed. The seating areas are overcrowdedandsoepeople take up several seats with their luggage. Rude gate staff. Over priced food. Some very difficult to navigate such asMiami and Atlanta. Overall a nasty experience.
#41
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 77
Inadequate bathrooms
1) Some better than others, but bathrooms are always too small and usually dirty. I realize the bathrooms may be totally empty for extended periods, but they should be sized for those times when four planes are simultaneously deplaning and delivering 1,000 passengers to two small bathrooms. The facilities manager should visit a Buc-ee’s to see how it’s done!
2) We are constantly instructed to never leave our bags out of our sight, yet the toilet stalls are designed with inward swinging doors, which makes it nearly impossible to enter with your roller bag, especially if you prefer not to rub up against a toilet covered in some other guy’s piss. I try to get the handicap stall whenever possible.
3) Security requirements vary drastically between airports, and even within the same airport. One day I go to DEN and am required to remove shoes, liquids, belt, coat, and all devices, and all of these items must be in separate bins. The next week, same airport, they have removed all the bins, and we are instructed to leave everything in our bags, and keep our shoes and coats on. Week three, it's back to Plan A. I mention this to the TSA agent, and he tells me I am a liar; they never removed the bins or allowed passengers to keep everything in their bags. Week four, no bins again! Most security efforts are useless anyway, but the lines might move a little faster if everybody knows what to expect.
2) We are constantly instructed to never leave our bags out of our sight, yet the toilet stalls are designed with inward swinging doors, which makes it nearly impossible to enter with your roller bag, especially if you prefer not to rub up against a toilet covered in some other guy’s piss. I try to get the handicap stall whenever possible.
3) Security requirements vary drastically between airports, and even within the same airport. One day I go to DEN and am required to remove shoes, liquids, belt, coat, and all devices, and all of these items must be in separate bins. The next week, same airport, they have removed all the bins, and we are instructed to leave everything in our bags, and keep our shoes and coats on. Week three, it's back to Plan A. I mention this to the TSA agent, and he tells me I am a liar; they never removed the bins or allowed passengers to keep everything in their bags. Week four, no bins again! Most security efforts are useless anyway, but the lines might move a little faster if everybody knows what to expect.
#43
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Bay Area, CA
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It seems to me that a lot of the newer international airports now force you to walk through a maze of duty free shopping areas and high end designer stores just to get to the main gates. I feel like it used to be somewhere to the side and you could go if you wanted but now it seems like they are forcing everyone to walk the conga line through them.
#44
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: HEL
Programs: No more status, free agent now
Posts: 163
Great thread!
Duty free shop maze:
I'm waiting for the passive-aggressive day that people start walking straight thru and knocking any stuff in the way down. Maybe they would then make the walking area wider and more straight. But I'm told many people "like shopping".
Dirty hot small toilets that barely fit carryon:
Add to that the people who "output" all over the place, so you must start by cleaning up.
Maybe this is all to make FF status look more worthy, e.g.
It must be hard to be the airline, sandwiched between horrible airports (shops, security theatre, toilets) and inconvenient getting to/from the airport, all of which is out of their control.
Duty free shop maze:
I'm waiting for the passive-aggressive day that people start walking straight thru and knocking any stuff in the way down. Maybe they would then make the walking area wider and more straight. But I'm told many people "like shopping".
Dirty hot small toilets that barely fit carryon:
Add to that the people who "output" all over the place, so you must start by cleaning up.
Maybe this is all to make FF status look more worthy, e.g.
- Some security fast tracks bypass the shop maze all together (e.g. LHR T3, T5). Amazingly great.
- Quite many lounges have nice and sometimes large clean airy toilets. Wonderful.
It must be hard to be the airline, sandwiched between horrible airports (shops, security theatre, toilets) and inconvenient getting to/from the airport, all of which is out of their control.