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Flight Paths...
Who designs flight paths? Each airline or someone else?
I'm interested to why (for example) the LHR-LAS flight path looks like this (super curved).... Is there a science behind it? Is it simply to avoid other flights? How do they decide which flights to lengthen? Boring Sunday snowed in got my small brain ticking :D https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...705f436bcc.jpg |
Curvature and jetstreams will dictate this
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Remember the flight path in this example is curved as this is the shortest route, as the world is not flat.
Brian |
Isn't that contributed to by the fact that the earth is not flat?
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Google Great Circle Route
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Originally Posted by mikeyfly
(Post 29156471)
Curvature and jetstreams will dictate this
Originally Posted by hanmer
(Post 29156474)
Remember the flight path in this example is curved as this is the shortest route, as the world is not flat.
Brian
Originally Posted by LTN Phobia
(Post 29156478)
Isn't that contributed to by the fact that the earth is not flat?
Thanks for replying! |
Originally Posted by TPRun
(Post 29156537)
[b]WOW I feel stupid as hell.
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Originally Posted by Swanhunter
(Post 29156534)
Google Great Circle Route
Originally Posted by LTN Phobia
(Post 29156552)
Don't feel stupid! It's just to do with difficulties with representing a near-spherical object on a flat surface, which is utterly not your fault* and really, they should draw the rhumb line or something so that it doesn't look like the flight took a very strange curvy path :D
LTN - I then proceeded to read out the question to my family - and the replies from here - and was laughed out of my own house! Happy Sunday, all! |
Originally Posted by TPRun
(Post 29156537)
WOW I feel stupid as hell.
Thanks for replying! Honestly, don't feel daft. I didn't understand it without explanation at first. When I was younger and first flew UK - US via AMS, I didn't get why we flew down to then fly all the way back up over where we'd just come from. Obviously that was also to do with flight availability and price, but still..:D |
Bit of a long read but this is interesting: https://nats.aero/blog/2014/06/north...ateway-europe/
NATS basically design 'tracks' each day depending on the jetstream. Each aircraft then gets assigned a track. |
I love how all of you believe that "round earth" stuff!
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One other factor about this route is that it passed through Canadian airspace. Canadian airspace is more expensive to travel through than, say, US airspace (in some cases).
The slight flattening of the curve between the Canadian border and LAS may (or may not) account for this. What I mean is that the route has been slightly altered to minimise time over Canada. |
I was going to post about how this route is not simply a great circle as it has a deviation to cut down on overflight fees generated by flying across Canada. Then I saw MarkFlies post above and realised he'd beat me to it.
Flights from SFO, LAX, etc. will often take a more easterly track to reduce the total cost. The airlines have sophisticated software tools that allow them to plug in all the various parameters (flight time, fuel burn, jetstream/weather conditions, overflight costs, ...) in order to map out an optimal route according to the anticipated conditions for the flight. This video from Wendover Productions has more info on this (starting from around 4:25): |
Originally Posted by Out of my Element
(Post 29156695)
I love how all of you believe that "round earth" stuff!
Cmon you spherical earthers. Proven science is above, weird theories... |
Some airlines have their own flight planning computer time,others use bought in service.Normal parameters for a route being chosen include winds,airspace closures,overflight charges,insurance and crew costs,aircraft weight and a number of other factors.The numbers are crunched by high speed computers and usually 2 or 3 options are added with costs and fuel burn.For a B747 fuel burn is worked to the nearest 50 or 100 Kgs out of a possible 160 tonnes or so.
Like most things in aviation it is worked to minimum cost. |
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