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EuropeanPete Nov 8, 2017 11:28 am


Originally Posted by dbru (Post 29036146)
Bucharest to Frankfurt you get for $90, if you fly to Dortmund its $30.

US and Canada are super expensive compared to the rest of the world. Suppose management has bigger pockets.

Don't underestimate the impact of Chapter 11 and protectionist regulations allowing the legacy airlines to retain market control in a way which wouldn't be allowed in any other environment. It's analogous to markets which retain state-run airlines, crowding out alternatives.

ne52 Nov 8, 2017 11:55 am

Depending on where you are staying in Washington, there is a BWI-CHS flight on Southwest. I got a $39 promo fare on that once but it was a rarity and you'll have the cost and time of getting to BWI.

$118 is probably about as good as you're going to get and I'd just book that. FWIW, it would not strike me as expensive at all.

kb9522 Nov 8, 2017 8:32 pm

$118 is expensive? :rolleyes:

invisible Nov 9, 2017 6:38 am

Seems people in US are not quite aware how cheap airfares on LCC could be. As a proof - I had round trip flight from Johor, Malaysia to Saigon (HCMC) which no checked luggage. I paid equivalent of of USD $50 for it.

84fiero Nov 9, 2017 6:45 am

People are aware, it's just not relevant to the WAS-CHS market and the OP wondering if their WAS-CHS ticket price is a good deal or not.

GUWonder Nov 9, 2017 7:12 am


Originally Posted by kb9522 (Post 29038169)
$118 is expensive? :rolleyes:

That was about as low as it would routinely get to fly DCA-LGA/LGA-DCA (roundtrip either direction) even in the 1990s unless using the government negotiated fare or some negotiated fare for some very large private sector employers. And flights between those areas then had the benefit of having train and bus competition and plenty of competition given the BWI/DCA/IAD-EWR/ISP/JFK/LGA flight options at the time.

I'd say $118 is relatively cheap for a domestic roundtrip flight.

HomerJay Nov 9, 2017 7:24 am

I wouldn't buy just yet, but I'd check two options on a regular basis.

One is Jetblue DCA-CHS. I've seen weekday fares as low as $59 for that non-stop. Sundays, especially in the summer, will be more expensive.

The other is Southwest BWI-CHS. Same as Jetblue, but from a different airport, and no charge for your checked luggage.

$118 is what I would expect to pay, especially this far out. Charleston is a great tourist destination, and Sunday flights in August don't seem to be the kind of flights likely to have deep discounted fares.

So keep checking for a while, to see if anything develops, but don't wait too long before pulling the trigger.

kb9522 Nov 9, 2017 9:55 am


Originally Posted by invisible (Post 29039489)
Seems people in US are not quite aware how cheap airfares on LCC could be. As a proof - I had round trip flight from Johor, Malaysia to Saigon (HCMC) which no checked luggage. I paid equivalent of of USD $50 for it.

What does your flight from Malaysia to Saigon have to do with the US domestic market?

ft101 Nov 10, 2017 1:37 pm


Originally Posted by 84fiero (Post 29039512)
People are aware, it's just not relevant to the WAS-CHS market and the OP wondering if their WAS-CHS ticket price is a good deal or not.


Originally Posted by kb9522 (Post 29040236)
What does your flight from Malaysia to Saigon have to do with the US domestic market?

The OP got his answer very early on. The thread has now developed (as threads do) and the discussion has moved on to also compare prices elsewhere.

No need to be sensitive if it's pointed out how much passengers in the USA are being dumped on by their airlines in comparison to many other places.

YVR Cockroach Nov 10, 2017 5:09 pm

Not too many LCCs/ULCCs for various reasons including consumer preference?

I imagine labour costs have something to do with it too (haven't seen comparative breakdowns of cost per ASM/ASK).

The closest one gets to those airfares is Spirit Airlines but I think most would rather drive.

Jimmie Jet Nov 10, 2017 5:18 pm


Originally Posted by joepatr (Post 29031559)
I'm looking at flying from Washington to Charleston, SC next Summer (early August) and the cheapest flight from looking so far seems to be $118, plus $25 for checked baggage - flying with American Airlines on a Sunday.

As someone used to the European Low Cost Carriers this seems really expensive to me; are the prices going to come down any more or is this likely to be the best it will get? I saw JetBlue.com aren't on sale yet, but looking at a random Sunday in June when they are on sale it still looks very expensive. Is this down to travelling in a high season, lack of competition, or similar?

That is a good number, you will spend more than the $118 in man hours trying to save a few bucks

kyanar Nov 11, 2017 2:12 pm


Originally Posted by dbru (Post 29036146)
US and Canada are super expensive compared to the rest of the world. Suppose management has bigger pockets.

I disagree that it's super expensive compared to the rest of the world.

I've lived in NZ and Australia, and to test your theory I tried a mainline QF search for AU and NZ search for, uh, NZ (as OP used AA not WN or similar, I excluded LCCs like JQ).

For a one way flight between BNE and SYD (467mi according to Great Circle) during a Sunday in Summer (February here) it was $125 AUD to $245 AUD one way sale fare depending on time of day. QF was also happy to sell me JQ tickets for $114 AUD to $130 AUD.

For a one way flight in NZ between AKL and CHC (463mi) on the same day, $109 NZD to $429 NZD depending on time of day (I used the lowest fare including a checked bag).

DYKWIA Nov 11, 2017 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by deniah (Post 29035755)
Those LCC fares are also *typically* offered only on the ultra-mass-market tourist routes. Like anything from UK to any Spanish island.

Which is not dissimilar to the cheap fares to Las Vegas from the SF Bay Area.

Good look getting LCC to carry you from Bucharest to Frankfurt for $118.

Not really. The European LCCs have very low fares on all routes if you book early enough. My regular MAN-EIN can be had for £9.99 sometimes. I tried to book another flight recently, and it was £200+.

invisible Nov 12, 2017 1:15 pm


Originally Posted by kb9522 (Post 29040236)
What does your flight from Malaysia to Saigon have to do with the US domestic market?

The fact that topic started with - very affordable air travel is available at both developed world (Europe) and developing world as well. Yet for whatever reason, this has not arrived to US.

Just 20 min ago I booked one way flight KUL-SIN for appx US $21.

Code:

Flight
1x Guest        38.90 MYR
klia2 fee        3.00 MYR
Passenger Service Charge        35.00 MYR
GST        2.10 MYR
Subtotal        79.00 MYR
         
Add-ons & Fees
1x Processing Fee        8.00 MYR
Subtotal        8.00 MYR
         
Total amount        87.00 MYR
Total GST        2.10 MYR
Total paid        87.00 MYR

That is regular fare, if it would be sale, I could get the same ticket for less than $10 - that 35MYR fare is dropped to 1MYR.


We already had topic about cheap airfares here:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trav...ue-ticket.html

tmiw Nov 12, 2017 3:19 pm


Originally Posted by kyanar (Post 29048852)
I disagree that it's super expensive compared to the rest of the world.

I've lived in NZ and Australia, and to test your theory I tried a mainline QF search for AU and NZ search for, uh, NZ (as OP used AA not WN or similar, I excluded LCCs like JQ).

For a one way flight between BNE and SYD (467mi according to Great Circle) during a Sunday in Summer (February here) it was $125 AUD to $245 AUD one way sale fare depending on time of day. QF was also happy to sell me JQ tickets for $114 AUD to $130 AUD.

For a one way flight in NZ between AKL and CHC (463mi) on the same day, $109 NZD to $429 NZD depending on time of day (I used the lowest fare including a checked bag).

Doesn't Australia have a dearth of mainline carriers as well, just like the US?


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