Apparently I'm not a gentleman - fight at TSA security
Oct 10, 2017, 1:42 pm
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Apparently I'm not a gentleman - fight at TSA security
Walking to security at EWR just minding my business. A woman in her early 40s and another woman in her late 60s (turns out to be the mother) are sitting on the floor with their luggage open searching for something in the suitcases. No big deal as the hallway is 200' wide. I don't make eye contact with them, don't say a thing, just walk around them.
Get to TSA security line and I feel a poke in my arm, following by "hey you". It's the woman, who starts giving me lip service of how I'm "not a gentleman" because I should have waited for her and her mother to collect their things instead of walking around them. I gave her lip right back and the mother gets right in my face screaming at me to apologize to her daughter. I'm talking 1" from my face.
I decide it's not worth the stupidity and let it go. They proceed to call a TSA supervisor and tell him I've been cursing and threatening them. I end up getting pulled out of line and "for the security of the women" I am made to wait in another line. TSA would flat out not listen to me. I was guilty. Period.
So there you have it. Think twice about walking around people laying on the floor rummaging thru their luggage. I bet when they got on their plane they seat poached F too.
Get to TSA security line and I feel a poke in my arm, following by "hey you". It's the woman, who starts giving me lip service of how I'm "not a gentleman" because I should have waited for her and her mother to collect their things instead of walking around them. I gave her lip right back and the mother gets right in my face screaming at me to apologize to her daughter. I'm talking 1" from my face.
I decide it's not worth the stupidity and let it go. They proceed to call a TSA supervisor and tell him I've been cursing and threatening them. I end up getting pulled out of line and "for the security of the women" I am made to wait in another line. TSA would flat out not listen to me. I was guilty. Period.
So there you have it. Think twice about walking around people laying on the floor rummaging thru their luggage. I bet when they got on their plane they seat poached F too.
Oct 10, 2017, 4:08 pm
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So, crazy has discovered air travel?
BTW: I'm sick and tired of these selfish .......s (men and women) who falsely accuse others of something, particularly if they are accusing someone of something illegal.
If someone crazy barks at you the next time, go noisy. People will see it and if you explain calmly and loudly what's going on, you'll have at least the possibility of someone confirming that you haven't been threatening or cursing.
BTW: I'm sick and tired of these selfish .......s (men and women) who falsely accuse others of something, particularly if they are accusing someone of something illegal.
If someone crazy barks at you the next time, go noisy. People will see it and if you explain calmly and loudly what's going on, you'll have at least the possibility of someone confirming that you haven't been threatening or cursing.
Oct 10, 2017, 4:13 pm
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"I gave her lip right back."
The result here was preordained.
Don't engage with irrational or crazy people. It's not as though anything you say is going to change them for the better and if the lip could reasonably be construed as "cursing and threatening" you can only imagine why anybody trying to maintain order did what they did.
I suppose that you could have asked for a law enforcement officer, but that would have likely ended up with further delay and no satisfaction either.
The result here was preordained.
Don't engage with irrational or crazy people. It's not as though anything you say is going to change them for the better and if the lip could reasonably be construed as "cursing and threatening" you can only imagine why anybody trying to maintain order did what they did.
I suppose that you could have asked for a law enforcement officer, but that would have likely ended up with further delay and no satisfaction either.
Oct 10, 2017, 4:17 pm
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Ironically, I've tried this before in France (pretending to speak neither English nor French when engaged by someone trying to get me to sign something), and I'm not very good at it...
Oct 10, 2017, 4:30 pm
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Oct 10, 2017, 4:38 pm
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Oct 10, 2017, 5:24 pm
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Cue head slap...they all speak both...
Oct 10, 2017, 6:29 pm
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+1. Welcome to my world. EWR is the biggest [mess] in the world wth the worst TSA and the worst flying public. I go to the gate when boarding begins as I want to be as far away as possible from the type of people that you described and they are everywhere at EWR. These are probably the same people who stand and block boarding area 1 since they are either too stupid or too inconsiderate to stand aside.
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Oct 10, 2017, 7:17 pm
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Walking to security at EWR just minding my business. A woman in her early 40s and another woman in her late 60s (turns out to be the mother) are sitting on the floor with their luggage open searching for something in the suitcases. No big deal as the hallway is 200' wide. I don't make eye contact with them, don't say a thing, just walk around them.
Get to TSA security line and I feel a poke in my arm, following by "hey you". It's the woman, who starts giving me lip service of how I'm "not a gentleman" because I should have waited for her and her mother to collect their things instead of walking around them. I gave her lip right back and the mother gets right in my face screaming at me to apologize to her daughter. I'm talking 1" from my face.
I decide it's not worth the stupidity and let it go. They proceed to call a TSA supervisor and tell him I've been cursing and threatening them. I end up getting pulled out of line and "for the security of the women" I am made to wait in another line. TSA would flat out not listen to me. I was guilty. Period.
So there you have it. Think twice about walking around people laying on the floor rummaging thru their luggage. I bet when they got on their plane they seat poached F too.
Get to TSA security line and I feel a poke in my arm, following by "hey you". It's the woman, who starts giving me lip service of how I'm "not a gentleman" because I should have waited for her and her mother to collect their things instead of walking around them. I gave her lip right back and the mother gets right in my face screaming at me to apologize to her daughter. I'm talking 1" from my face.
I decide it's not worth the stupidity and let it go. They proceed to call a TSA supervisor and tell him I've been cursing and threatening them. I end up getting pulled out of line and "for the security of the women" I am made to wait in another line. TSA would flat out not listen to me. I was guilty. Period.
So there you have it. Think twice about walking around people laying on the floor rummaging thru their luggage. I bet when they got on their plane they seat poached F too.
Doesn't matter if the woman is the guilty party, the man is always the problem.
Oct 10, 2017, 7:30 pm
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