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backprop Jun 20, 2017 11:26 am


Originally Posted by darthbimmer (Post 28465948)
That's a poor example. The line "Dos cervezas por favor" is widely shared as the punchline of joke about how un-important it is to learn much Spanish when visiting Spanish-speaking parts of the world. Obviously people who take the joke as literally true will find the joke is on them.

I've found knowing the following words/phrases in other languages enormously helpful:
[LIST][*]Hello/Good morning/Good Evening[*]Please[*]Thank you[*]Goodbye/Farewell[*]Pardon/I'm sorry
......

Pretty much exactly as I said; the pleasantries and some basic nouns, which comprise most of your list, are good to know. Asking "where is" something that might involve more than a pointing of the hand/finger, can readily devolve into "Turn right at the hallway and then second door on your left," leaving you back at square one.

chgoeditor Jun 20, 2017 11:45 am


Originally Posted by sethweinstein (Post 28464762)
Of course, a translation of anything crucial and specific (such as "I'm allergic to nuts") might be worth having written out on paper.

Absolutely -- and native speakers on FT can be a good resource for this! I have a bell pepper sensitivity that stresses me out when traveling. We're heading to Barcelona later this year, and if you know anything about Spanish and Catalan cooking, you know that bell peppers are common in many dishes. I was able to get help from a few FTers who are native Spanish speakers and helped translate my allergy concerns so I can explain my allergy to servers.

timfountain Jun 20, 2017 12:55 pm

Shout, and if they don't understand, shout louder....

mdkowals Jun 20, 2017 1:38 pm

Another option is to walk around in an American flag t-shirt and shorts, and just speak English louder and with more slang if someone doesn't understand you the first time.

"What? aint none of y'all heard of Coors 'round here?"

frobozzelectric Jun 20, 2017 3:43 pm

pointing
 
for food i just point and nod.

for directions i figure it out myself.

if staying for a long time, i study what i can so i can speak some basic words to get by.


most people are helpful even when there is a language barrier.

Taiwaned Jun 20, 2017 3:51 pm

We moved to Taiwan without speaking one word in Chinese. Moved to a secondary smaller city.

Second day there, we wanted to buy eggs. I went to the open market and went to the lady that looked like the stall owner. I squatted and squawked like a chicken. Laid an imaginary egg, picked up imaginary egg, then cracked it on an imaginary frying pan.

Everybody around me understood it perfectly, everybody was laughing.

I was able to purchase 6 eggs.

I found that if you have a sense of humor and laugh, people are really willing to help. In fact, as we learned the language, the people in the open market really became friendly. A few of them became our friends.

Don't take yourself seriously. Use a lot of sign language. Smile. It's amazing how you can communicate.

mglvrug Jun 20, 2017 4:35 pm


Originally Posted by darthbimmer (Post 28459295)
Learn a bit of the language of the place you're going. Type into your favorite search engine, "Common phrases in [language]". Within a few hours you can learn greetings, please/thank you, a few numbers, and a few common requests for help. These certainly won't enable you to hold a conversation but they will endear you to the locals. Once you demonstrate respect for their language and culture they'll take much greater interest in helping you.

My wise wife figured out that a very gracious thing to do is to learn how to say "I'm sorry, I don't speak X" in the local language. Beginning any exchange with that, followed by an attempt, however pitiful, to use a few local words will truly endear you to locals.

pseudoswede Jun 20, 2017 5:51 pm


Originally Posted by chgoeditor (Post 28466069)
Absolutely -- and native speakers on FT can be a good resource for this! I have a bell pepper sensitivity that stresses me out when traveling. We're heading to Barcelona later this year, and if you know anything about Spanish and Catalan cooking, you know that bell peppers are common in many dishes. I was able to get help from a few FTers who are native Spanish speakers and helped translate my allergy concerns so I can explain my allergy to servers.

You can also get cards made for you in lots of languages (including Catalan)...

https://www.selectwisely.com/product...able_Allergies

Loren Pechtel Jun 20, 2017 5:55 pm


Originally Posted by mdkowals (Post 28465190)
4) If you're in a crunch for time, instead of learning phrases you can just learn the key nouns you need for your trip. Saying, or being able to read, "Train?" in the preferred language works about as well as "Where is the train station?" You can also pick up "Water", "Toilet", "Hotel".....

Second this. When there is a language barrier use as few words as possible. Less to get wrong, you can't break the grammar and the person you are talking to will probably realize your understanding will be minimal and will try to do things like point rather than speak.

pseudoswede Jun 20, 2017 5:55 pm


Originally Posted by mglvrug (Post 28467319)
My wise wife figured out that a very gracious thing to do is to learn how to say "I'm sorry, I don't speak X" in the local language. Beginning any exchange with that, followed by an attempt, however pitiful, to use a few local words will truly endear you to locals.

When a conversation in Swedish is turning out to be too complicated for me to handle, I always then say "I'm sorry, but I have to speak English now."

WilcoRoger Jun 21, 2017 5:57 am


Originally Posted by backprop (Post 28466012)
Asking "where is" something that might involve more than a pointing of the hand/finger, can readily devolve into "Turn right at the hallway and then second door on your left," leaving you back at square one.

Exactly. I might learn to ask in weakly passable Cantonese (or any Asian language) to ask "Where is the train station?" but what does it help, if the answer is "Go down this road until Grandma Wu's old house then turn towards the market. Now if you can see the new library building, you went to far, you'll need to backtrack 300 meters" :rolleyes:

invisible Jun 21, 2017 6:18 am

I think in 2017 when you can have Google Maps, Here and Maps.me - three different and free mapping/navigation products which work offline and use different data sources - should not cause anyone standing in middle of the (whatever) and asking where train station is.

So the question basically boils down how to order food/things, how much things are and where to find doctor/toilet.

StartinSanDiego Jun 21, 2017 8:16 am


Originally Posted by Taiwaned (Post 28467157)

Second day there, we wanted to buy eggs. I went to the open market and went to the lady that looked like the stall owner. I squatted and squawked like a chicken. Laid an imaginary egg, picked up imaginary egg, then cracked it on an imaginary frying pan.

Everybody around me understood it perfectly, everybody was laughing.

I was able to purchase 6 eggs.

I found that if you have a sense of humor and laugh, people are really willing to help. In fact, as we learned the language, the people in the open market really became friendly. A few of them became our friends.

Don't take yourself seriously. Use a lot of sign language. Smile. It's amazing how you can communicate.

This is my strategy, also. I've actually squawked like a chicken in more than one country. Admittedly, I've pantomimed a little squat, imaginary lever pull, and swwooosh sound when looking for the loo. Everybody laughs and I find a toilet. Might I mention that my embarrassment threshold is fairly high. It's better than the alternative, right?

Universal language includes a smile, a thumbs up or thumbs down, a shrug, they all work wonders. Really, it's all easier than you'd ever think.

darthbimmer Jun 21, 2017 11:06 am


Originally Posted by WilcoRoger (Post 28469229)
Exactly. I might learn to ask in weakly passable Cantonese (or any Asian language) to ask "Where is the train station?" but what does it help, if the answer is "Go down this road until Grandma Wu's old house then turn towards the market. Now if you can see the new library building, you went to far, you'll need to backtrack 300 meters" :rolleyes:

Sure, if the answer's really complicated, knowing only common phrases is not going to help. But A) a lot can be communicated with hand signals. And B) nowadays cell phone data service is darn near ubiquitous so a well prepared traveler can access maps on the go to locate landmarks (as invisible already noted above). Really the purpose of knowing how to ask about the train station is to tell a taxi driver, "Please take me to the train station" when it's too far to walk. ...And the growing prevalence of online ride hailing services is making even that conversation less important!


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