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Originally Posted by NYCommuter
(Post 27694854)
If you get on a flight by going standby, it's not necessarily possible to pick where you sit.
People might not mind if someone just goes before someone sitting gets up, but people don't just go; with a few exceptions, airline disembarking is pretty strictly row-by-row, from what I can tell. People don't just go in front of people sitting (with a few exceptions). The solution seems to be having rear doors on planes open, but another solution is for people to get with the program, put down their phones, stand up and open the overhead bins asap, instead of just sitting there. |
Originally Posted by obscure2k
(Post 27694955)
DB Cooper messed that up. :td:
An A321 or 757-300 will be a slow process to deplane if you're in the back. It just is. And even then it is usually no more than 5-10 minutes from when the door opens. Getting worked up over it will only serve to get you worked up, not change the timing. And that doesn't seem like a particularly good use of energy. As for me, I do not stand up until I'm ready to move. I don't open the bins until I'm ready to make sure nothing will fall out and land on other people. And I certainly don't block others behind me who are ready to move from doing so. Seems to work pretty well. |
Originally Posted by NYCommuter
(Post 27694854)
If you get on a flight by going standby, it's not necessarily possible to pick where you sit.
People might not mind if someone just goes before someone sitting gets up, but people don't just go; with a few exceptions, airline disembarking is pretty strictly row-by-row, from what I can tell. People don't just go in front of people sitting (with a few exceptions). The solution seems to be having rear doors on planes open, but another solution is for people to get with the program, put down their phones, stand up and open the overhead bins asap, instead of just sitting there. But since neither airports nor airlines nor the traveling public are going to change overnight, it's still the best suggestion to get what you want. |
Originally Posted by sbm12
(Post 27695108)
Well, that and enclosed boarding facilities like jet bridges. :p
An A321 or 757-300 will be a slow process to deplane if you're in the back. It just is. And even then it is usually no more than 5-10 minutes from when the door opens. Getting worked up over it will only serve to get you worked up, not change the timing. And that doesn't seem like a particularly good use of energy. As for me, I do not stand up until I'm ready to move. I don't open the bins until I'm ready to make sure nothing will fall out and land on other people. And I certainly don't block others behind me who are ready to move from doing so. Seems to work pretty well. I guess the airlines could go to ejection seats for those in a big rush! |
Perhaps we could get the air equivalent of the trains I used to commute to London on in the 90s:
http://citytransport.info/PhotoCD/PCD13a_098a.jpg |
Originally Posted by NYCommuter
(Post 27694581)
Not everyone is on a leisurely schedule, voluntarily or involuntarily.
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Arm the FAs with cattle prods and pepper spray?
Disembarkation times would drop precipitously. |
I've always been pleasantly surprised by how civilized the de-planing process generally is. You get your jerks every now and then who push and shove past others, but for the most part the row-by-row conventions are very well observed. To me, the only thing that disrupts that is when you have people fighting their way upstream to get to bags that are stowed toward the rear of the plane. Those folks should simply wait.
I will note that the aisles get very crowded very quickly, and sometimes even when you're in an aisle seat you can't get out of your row until the traffic starts flowing. |
Originally Posted by NYCommuter
(Post 27693033)
With all of the attention airlines give to boarding procedures, often re-working seating zones and procedures in the hopes of boarding people as quickly as possible, why don't airlines also focus on devising procedures for getting people OFF planes asap?
Airlines have aircraft turns down to a science - I promise if they could benefit from getting us off faster they would figure out a way. |
I once had a passenger deliberately and very physically block me to keep me from deplaning ahead of him.
I had no carry-on bags. He did, and he needed to retrieve them. But he was in the row ahead of me, so I wasn't "supposed" to deplane ahead of him, and he made sure I didn't. He even chewed me out for violating "plane etiquette". |
Several solutions, some already in progress
1. Sit in front. (People with status typically get to pick seats closer to the front depending on airline) 2. FA announcement about tight connections, I think most people listen to this, its better than nothing. But hey, I may have a "tight connection" if I want to squeeze in lunch, lounge time and a nap. 3. Slow people last (wheel chair people, etc) 4. If the person is sitting and still on their phone or very slow, don't wait for them, just go. That's though for people to learn. 5. Use rear doors too 6. FA make an announcement that there is a fire on board. People should be off in less than 30 seconds. Most probably with all of their bags too. Perhaps some injuries |
Originally Posted by eng3
(Post 27699298)
4. If the person is sitting and still on their phone or very slow, don't wait for them, just go. That's though for people to learn.
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Originally Posted by Madone59
(Post 27699663)
When I was commuting on ERJ-145's a lot and couldn't get seat 1A or 2A I'd try to get the exit row (row 18). Because I traveled with my backpack at my feet I'd be up and halfway down the plane as soon as the chime sounded.
When you are 6'-5", standing up in a <6' high aisle all bent over, before the door is even open or the props have even stopped turning is the height of idiocy. :) |
I like to get off quickly at transit stops. I chose aisle seats at the front where possible.
I also like to stand up as soon as possible. Most of my journeys involve too much enforced sit-down time and I get back pain. Standing up is a relief. I've only once encountered anyone that had a problem with this. I'd traveled from Australia to UK that day (and night) and had got trapped in a middle seat on the final leg LHR to ABZ. In economy of course. When we landed, the quite short guy in the aisle seat got up and got out and just stood there. Normal etiquette is to move a step forward or back if space allows, so that the next person can get out. I had followed him in the expectation that he would follow etiquette. He detected my impatience, me standing slightly bent with my head touching the overhead lockers, and started snarling at me that I should learn some manners and patience. There was plenty of space for him to move. It's as if some people on short hauls don't consider that other passengers might be at the beginning or end of a much longer journey. I should also point out that losing a minute on disembarking means a lot more than a minute. You could miss the bus, the inter-terminal train, get stuck behind a whole bunch of people in an immigration or security queue, add so on. i never push or shove but I'm all about maximising my chances of a successful connection and I like to hit the ground running (figuratively). |
Re: OP. Spirit used to have a "We're here, now beat it" standard announcement (not in those words, but expressing that part of what "keeps fares low" is short ground times and tight scheduling). I guess it sounded too surly, so they dropped it.
If you fly Spirit or Frontier, though, you probably notice that deplaning times are less because they charge for bags that are bigger than a rucksack and only a minority of people pay that. Some still put the rucksack in the bin, but those are much easier to pull out than the full roll-a-boards (which have weight and reach problems for many pax). The legacies have a much worse situation because, as we know, they charge for the checked bags but not the carry-ons...if they didn't do the former they'd have less of the latter. On Asian ULCCs like Air Asia you get a lot of situations where you can deplane on both ends (to ladders), but in the U.S. you get ADA problems and security concerns. |
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