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OP, I am a Canadian living abroad as well and I had the same question on my first return to Canada as a non-resident. They need to determine your residency status for customs/duty policies. If you have a bunch of stuff with you that you bought in China you are liable for duties if the goods remain in Canada which would be "normal" if you are a resident. Generally they are super easy-going with Canadian nationals who are non-residents as there is almost nothing to "catch" you for aside from the alcohol/tobacco limits and, of course, restricted/prohibited items.
Fill out the entry card as a non-resident (i.e. fill the boxes that ask you how many days you are staying and the Yes/No box about exceeding duty limits). You do not need to fill the ones with the value of goods you are bringing back like you would if you are a resident. Along with your foreign address on the card, this will signal you are a non-resident. |
Originally Posted by LondonElite
(Post 27521720)
If you hold a Z passport and you are entering Z I would find it strange and unusual to be asked for the purpose of your trip. Depending on your willingness to make a point, for most countries you could just say "none of your business, you have established that I am a citizen of this country and you cannot deny me entry."
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Originally Posted by krazykanuck
(Post 27522843)
Insert Canada as country Z and I have yet to find a response that makes them happy. For a country that is thought of as friendly, CBSA missed the memo, even to citizens.
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Originally Posted by LondonElite
(Post 27522176)
Not to belabour the point, but a Canadian entering Canada doesn't need to play this game. The CBSA does not have the authority to stop him coming into Canada. All he needs to say is "I'm here!" (I'm leaving aside customs issues and instances where the person has a long list of outstanding arrest warrants, though even in those cases the Canadian must be admitted into Canada.)
Few countries would permit their border officials to deny entry to an individual who presents proof of nationality and refuses to say anything more. But, most can make the rest of the entry experience a thoroughly unpleasant experience if they wish. |
I agree with you completely on both points. I'm not suggesting being unnecessarily obtuse during the process, simply that there comes a point when the small man in the big chair oversteps his authority, and the affected traveller should know not to acquiesce to the interrogation.
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Originally Posted by NYTA
(Post 27522224)
Don't mess with the Canadian border agents, however. Many years ago I had a friend from Italy who used to take a group of guys fly fishing every year. They'd either go to Alaska or to Canada and I assume that in addition to the fishing, they'd spend some time with women who weren't their wives.
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I'm confused as to why you are confused.
If you are visiting family and then traveling to a different city for business....why not answer "both"? |
Originally Posted by NYTA
(Post 27522224)
Don't mess with the Canadian border agents, however. Many years ago I had a friend from Italy who used to take a group of guys fly fishing every year. They'd either go to Alaska or to Canada and I assume that in addition to the fishing, they'd spend some time with women who weren't their wives. Upon arrival, when the Canadian border agent asked one of them what was the purpose of the trip, he said "I'm here to fish and to 'fornicate'"(he used a much less polite version of the word "fornicate"). The border agent took him into another room and put some stamp on his passport saying he wasn't allowed back into Canada again for several years. Nevermind that he truthfully stated his actual reason he came to Canada, and potentially not illegal as well.
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After a lengthy business trip that took me through 6 countries in Africa and Europe I was questioned at YYZ about where I had visited. No problem.
Then he got into why I was out of the country, what I was doing there and who I met with. I drew the line right there and explained I was a returning Canadian citizen, a resident, wasn't going to answer any more of his questions and to send me to secondary. He scowled, scribbled on my landing card and off I went fully expecting to spend the next several hours there. I was waved through the next stops, gathered up my bags and went home. :) |
Originally Posted by CBear
(Post 27523764)
I think your friend would've had a problem with most countries with that answer.
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Originally Posted by jkuok
(Post 27519858)
So lets say I am living in country X and if I travel to country Y I could answer my trip is for business or I am here to sight see
1) But what if I hold a country Z passport and I am going to country Z? Should I tell them A) Assuming like I normally answer I am here to sight see, visit family or for business? B) I am settle/working in country X (most likely their next question is why are you coming back to country Z which leads back to 1) Now this is where it get really complicated... for me:confused: 2) What if I travel from country X to Z every 2 weeks for 2 weeks work related, would your answer change? What I am confused is rather the officer is asking me what is the purpose of my trip to country X or what is the purpose of my trip to country Y? |
Originally Posted by TBD
(Post 27522140)
"I'm here for business" is pretty vague. Maybe it works. But if pushed, "I'm here for meetings" is very different than "I'm here to train my team" or "I'm here to complete a project.". The second and third statement could imply that you or your company have elected to 'take' (true or not) work away from the local workforce. That may cast you in a bad light.
I've had some bizarre exchanges, usually in ORD, where I've been unable to figure out whether it's a tactic to ensure I'm being consistent, or just an officer being weird. Lines like "I can't understand how you can do your job, if you're out of your office most of the time" (I was a consultant at the time). Mind you, I had committed one of the biggest sins on that occasion: not remembering the dates I'd last been in the US (I was going to the US a couple of times a year at that point, but travelling internationally every couple of weeks. Sorry, America, you're not so special that I have the dates I visited inscribed upon my memory - although I do look it up when I'm on the plane these days). (Another odd exchange was at JFK, where, on saying we were here visiting friends and on holiday, the immigration officer went off into an unprovoked, bizarre rant about how busy the place was because so many people, from all over the world, were so desperate to come to New York. Much as I think NY is a wonderful city, and much as I appreciate the "bring us your poor, your tired, your tired, your huddled masses yearning to be free" ethos, I did have to bite my tongue to avoid pointing out that he wasn't helping how busy it was by wasting several minutes with his rant, and that we'd just arrived from LHR, an airport that handles 30% more passengers than JFK. But, you know, it's nice that he's proud of his job, we could all do with more of that...) So I tend to answer "holiday/vacation" [depending on country], "business meetings" or "in transit to [x] [with/without a stopover]". It seems to go more smoothly that way. |
Originally Posted by DieselYVR
(Post 27522551)
OP, I am a Canadian living abroad as well and I had the same question on my first return to Canada as a non-resident. They need to determine your residency status for customs/duty policies. If you have a bunch of stuff with you that you bought in China you are liable for duties if the goods remain in Canada which would be "normal" if you are a resident. Generally they are super easy-going with Canadian nationals who are non-residents as there is almost nothing to "catch" you for aside from the alcohol/tobacco limits and, of course, restricted/prohibited items.
Fill out the entry card as a non-resident (i.e. fill the boxes that ask you how many days you are staying and the Yes/No box about exceeding duty limits). You do not need to fill the ones with the value of goods you are bringing back like you would if you are a resident. Along with your foreign address on the card, this will signal you are a non-resident. |
Originally Posted by CBear
(Post 27523753)
I'm confused as to why you are confused.
If you are visiting family and then traveling to a different city for business....why not answer "both"?
Originally Posted by Vaucluse
(Post 27525366)
So you're a citizen of country Z, correct? Just say you're going back to work. There should be no problem since you're a citizen there. Why do you want to make it complicated for yourself?
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Originally Posted by LondonElite
(Post 27522107)
I was once asked by the immigration officer of my country "tell me why you are coming here and you long you plan to stay for" I asked him whether he had satisfactorily established my citizenship, and he said he had. I told him that his earlier question was an inappropriate abuse of his position and well outside his mandate. He stared at me for about five seconds and gave me back my passport, saying, "well, I cannot deny you entry into your own country, have a nice day." It was all very polite, but I did want to make a point that day.
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