Feel Guilty For Asking Pilot To Wait His Turn?
Jun 22, 2016, 12:52 am
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And security bottlenecks and chronic issues would be fixed much more efficiently if everyone had to wait their turn, including politicians and crews.
Jun 22, 2016, 12:59 am
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How does the order in which people are processed through security improve the rate of speed at which they're processed?
Jun 22, 2016, 3:01 pm
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In my world, the crew should be able to use a direct route as far as the TDC and then be processed expeditiously thru the scanning process without being able to jump the line there.
Jun 22, 2016, 3:12 pm
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In most of the world, meaning people who do not work in airports, it's the employee's responsibility to get to their precise work location on time and on their own time. Other people, professional or not, don't go to the front of the line to enter a parking garage or take an elevator to their office.
Jun 22, 2016, 3:40 pm
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This applies equally to passengers traveling for business.
In most of the world, meaning people who do not work in airports, it's the employee's responsibility to get to their precise work location on time and on their own time. Other people, professional or not, don't go to the front of the line to enter a parking garage or take an elevator to their office.
In most of the world, meaning people who do not work in airports, it's the employee's responsibility to get to their precise work location on time and on their own time. Other people, professional or not, don't go to the front of the line to enter a parking garage or take an elevator to their office.
Jun 22, 2016, 3:51 pm
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In most of the world, meaning people who do not work in airports, it's the employee's responsibility to get to their precise work location on time and on their own time. Other people, professional or not, don't go to the front of the line to enter a parking garage or take an elevator to their office.
Jun 22, 2016, 8:11 pm
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i have to disagree. It is up to him to properly plan his time to get to his job in a timely manner. When I worked on shift, I was expected to get to my station on time. If I knew there would be inclement weather, I would have to plan accordingly. The flight crew should be doing the same. Shoving their way past passengers without any (supposed) manners is bad form and would earn a complain. If the pilot can't manage his time with any slack, then he'll have to learn.
(Note, same thing with elite flyers... if you start rudely shoving your way through a line because you're a FF, expect a few elbows to get in the way)...
It has been mentioned quite a few times that a little politeness will go a long way. "Excuse me, I am late to get to my station, could I please go ahead of you" will go a long way. To expect everyone to know the drill as someone said upthread is unrealistic... yes, this may be the pre-clearance line (which most FF would use), but what about the people who don't fly as often, but got pre-clearance at the advice of a FF? There are so many variables that we as the readers are not aware of (only one side of the story)...
(Note, same thing with elite flyers... if you start rudely shoving your way through a line because you're a FF, expect a few elbows to get in the way)...
It has been mentioned quite a few times that a little politeness will go a long way. "Excuse me, I am late to get to my station, could I please go ahead of you" will go a long way. To expect everyone to know the drill as someone said upthread is unrealistic... yes, this may be the pre-clearance line (which most FF would use), but what about the people who don't fly as often, but got pre-clearance at the advice of a FF? There are so many variables that we as the readers are not aware of (only one side of the story)...
Jun 22, 2016, 9:17 pm
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The JetBlue pilot was a little rude, I think. Five flight attendants shoving past you as you're shoving your bag on the conveyer without saying a word is pretty rude too.
Regardless of how much rest the crew had, they're not to going to get to the airport earlier to wait in line a 30 minute security line. While crew lines are nice, not every airport has the resources to have them. Crew members will have to continue to cut. Hopefully they are nice and say excuse me, but some won't in the future, and FT will have another 30 page discussion on a rude pilot and crews cutting in line.
Regardless of how much rest the crew had, they're not to going to get to the airport earlier to wait in line a 30 minute security line. While crew lines are nice, not every airport has the resources to have them. Crew members will have to continue to cut. Hopefully they are nice and say excuse me, but some won't in the future, and FT will have another 30 page discussion on a rude pilot and crews cutting in line.
Jun 23, 2016, 8:18 am
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How does the order in which people are processed through security improve the rate of speed at which they're processed?
Yes. No exceptions would - in the long run -improve the ritual.
Jun 23, 2016, 8:55 am
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They do undergo the same security screening procedure, minus the waiting. I would like to know however, how making the crew wait will improve processing rates through the checkpoint.
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Jun 23, 2016, 10:59 am
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While "the ritual" might be (slightly) improved for the masses, it will do so to the detriment of the airlines' bread-and-butter: the business traveler.
Loads will drop, the frequency of flights will be reduced, and prices will go up. I'm pretty sure this isn't in the best interests of all travelers.
Loads will drop, the frequency of flights will be reduced, and prices will go up. I'm pretty sure this isn't in the best interests of all travelers.
Jun 23, 2016, 11:12 am
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Another reason is that the pilot/flight attendant getting through security faster provides an overall benefit to the operation of the airport (through on time flights, better crew rest). The business traveler rushing to go to the United Club or gate lice next to the podium does not.
Jun 25, 2016, 6:28 am
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My best guess that it is a product of some legal precedent in the US and hence it tastes like an argument to those who grew up in this context.
I don't mean this disrespectfully, I just don't see the argument.
I would like to know however, how making the crew wait will improve processing rates through the checkpoint.
By creating incentives for expedient screening for those who organise the screening process.
Jun 25, 2016, 8:32 pm
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