Is a Fanny Pack a "Carry-On" Item?
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Is a Fanny Pack a "Carry-On" Item?
Okay, I admit it: Fanny packs are dorky looking, but they work well for me when flying. I keep mine attached to my body throughout the flight, with several things I need within easy reach, and not taking up any under-seat or overhead bin space.
For many years, I have traveled with a carry-on backpack, small tote bag, and a fanny pack, and have never been told that I am impermissably taking THREE carry-on items onboard. I also previously have never been asked to remove a fanny pack from my body to combine it with other items or to "stow" it during take-off, landing, or in-flight.
Recently, however, instead of the backpack, I have started carrying on a small rollerbag + a small tote, and have now recently been told twice that my fanny pack must be removed or combined as a "third" item. Is this some recent rule change? I have always considered my fanny pack equivalent to a "pocket" in one's clothing... right?
What's up with this?
For many years, I have traveled with a carry-on backpack, small tote bag, and a fanny pack, and have never been told that I am impermissably taking THREE carry-on items onboard. I also previously have never been asked to remove a fanny pack from my body to combine it with other items or to "stow" it during take-off, landing, or in-flight.
Recently, however, instead of the backpack, I have started carrying on a small rollerbag + a small tote, and have now recently been told twice that my fanny pack must be removed or combined as a "third" item. Is this some recent rule change? I have always considered my fanny pack equivalent to a "pocket" in one's clothing... right?
What's up with this?
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I think this is silly, and just a prickly agent (or two). I see how a purse is a 3rd bag, especially a large one, but a fanny pack is not the same as they are smaller and literally on ones person.
Recently, however, instead of the backpack, I have started carrying on a small rollerbag + a small tote, and have now recently been told twice that my fanny pack must be removed or combined as a "third" item. Is this some recent rule change? I have always considered my fanny pack equivalent to a "pocket" in one's clothing... right?
What's up with this?
What's up with this?
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By whom were you told? "Enforcers" are sometimes actual airline employees and sometimes contractors hired to patrol check-in and security lines.
Also, is your experience across multiple airlines or just one airline? (For instance, I frequent the AA forum, and I read about a period where the AA really seemed to be making a push to enforce carryon bag sizes at several stations.)
Also, is your experience across multiple airlines or just one airline? (For instance, I frequent the AA forum, and I read about a period where the AA really seemed to be making a push to enforce carryon bag sizes at several stations.)
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By whom were you told? "Enforcers" are sometimes actual airline employees and sometimes contractors hired to patrol check-in and security lines.
Also, is your experience across multiple airlines or just one airline? (For instance, I frequent the AA forum, and I read about a period where the AA really seemed to be making a push to enforce carryon bag sizes at several stations.)
Also, is your experience across multiple airlines or just one airline? (For instance, I frequent the AA forum, and I read about a period where the AA really seemed to be making a push to enforce carryon bag sizes at several stations.)
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An online travel writer once posted about being told to combine/toss items because he showed up with a rollaboard, briefcase and a bag of candy. Yes, he had to stow the candy.
Although it rarely gets enforced, I believe the airline could actually get a nasty fine if an FAA inspector witnessed pax being allowed to board with more than the strict two-item limit.
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To confuse things even more a fanny is a vagina so if you're ever over here talking about a fanny pack you may get some strange looks.
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Yes, a fanny pack is a "personal item." That is clear from DL's rules. It counts because it is not specifically listed as an exception item (umbrella, duty free, crutches). So, if a DL employee wants to count it, it counts.
When these sorts of things happen on multiple occasions at different stations from different types of employee, it is usually because management has sent out a reminder. In this case that fanny packs count.
Why? Just like other issues, for every person like you who may have an innocuous item which does not burden anybody, there is some guy with a steamer trunk strapped to his waist which he calls a "fanny pack", promptly unstraps when he boards and shoves in the OH, thus using three pieces of carry-on. So, because boarding is not about having a legal debate, the rule gets enforced and you bear the brunt of it, at least for a while.
Same thing happened with people who boarded with a 21" laptop under their arm. They were told to stick it back in the bag for boarding.
The Solution: Take the fanny pack off. Stick it in one of your carryons and then pull it out once you have boarded. Or leave it where it is until you are off the aircraft at your destination. If you can't fit the thing in one of your two pieces, you have too much and need to check.
When these sorts of things happen on multiple occasions at different stations from different types of employee, it is usually because management has sent out a reminder. In this case that fanny packs count.
Why? Just like other issues, for every person like you who may have an innocuous item which does not burden anybody, there is some guy with a steamer trunk strapped to his waist which he calls a "fanny pack", promptly unstraps when he boards and shoves in the OH, thus using three pieces of carry-on. So, because boarding is not about having a legal debate, the rule gets enforced and you bear the brunt of it, at least for a while.
Same thing happened with people who boarded with a 21" laptop under their arm. They were told to stick it back in the bag for boarding.
The Solution: Take the fanny pack off. Stick it in one of your carryons and then pull it out once you have boarded. Or leave it where it is until you are off the aircraft at your destination. If you can't fit the thing in one of your two pieces, you have too much and need to check.
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I hadn't heard that one before!
Isn't 'Fanny' also a woman's nickname, short for 'Frances'? As in "Bob's your uncle and Fanny's your aunt"?
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The Solution: Take the fanny pack off. Stick it in one of your carryons and then pull it out once you have boarded. Or leave it where it is until you are off the aircraft at your destination. If you can't fit the thing in one of your two pieces, you have too much and need to check.
The Solution: Take the fanny pack off. Stick it in one of your carryons and then pull it out once you have boarded. Or leave it where it is until you are off the aircraft at your destination. If you can't fit the thing in one of your two pieces, you have too much and need to check.
I understand that some pax may abuse the 2-item rule, but sheesh -- can't GAs and FAs use common sense when seeing things with their own eyes?
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You see, I don't understand this logic. Having to stick it in a carry-on and then pull it out after boarding only slows down boarding while I rearrange all my gear before stowing and seating. It's like telling me I can't hold my Kindle and water bottle in my hand while boarding, but must remove those items from carry-on once I am seated... It's still the same STUFF, same weight, taking up the same space.
I understand that some pax may abuse the 2-item rule, but sheesh -- can't GAs and FAs use common sense when seeing things with their own eyes?
I understand that some pax may abuse the 2-item rule, but sheesh -- can't GAs and FAs use common sense when seeing things with their own eyes?
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Switch from a fanny pack to a vest! Nobody needs to remove a vest, right?
Seriously, though, I do not get the negative stigma associated with fanny packs. I wear one too, when I deem convenient, and to hell with what anyone else thinks.
Seriously, though, I do not get the negative stigma associated with fanny packs. I wear one too, when I deem convenient, and to hell with what anyone else thinks.
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I once had a moronic GA in HNL try to call my sandwich in a small bag a third carryon. I won the argument.
RE: fanny packs. Just wear a coat which covers it.
RE: fanny packs. Just wear a coat which covers it.