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Something for nothing-the point of status.
After buying Ambassador status I realized you don't get a room upgrade if you book with points. Another blogger commented on how Hyatt's DSU aren't really free, because you have to spend money to get them (P&C or just cash). So I realized that some elite statuses are more worthwhile if you continue to spend money, and some are more worthwhile if you just want to redeem your points you have accumulated.
But isn't status about trying to get something for nothing? For free, that is? If you wanted to spend money, you can always just book the suite, or fly first-class and not worry about seeing who gets what priority in line. Or you can do a private jet and not worry about other passengers at all! In that sense, SPG is better than Hyatt because you can potentially get a suite for free (using points and using a SNA). Some may say Hyatt is guaranteed, but it is still subject to availability at the time you book it. I'm pretty certain cash is king, and that is the ultimate guarantee. |
There is no free lunch in life.
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no, status is about having a gold-colored luggage tag to hang on your Targus backpack
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Originally Posted by deniah
(Post 26413527)
no, status is about having a gold-colored luggage tag to hang on your Targus backpack
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Originally Posted by s0ssos
(Post 26413232)
But isn't status about trying to get something for nothing? For free, that is? If you wanted to spend money, you can always just book the suite, or fly first-class and not worry about seeing who gets what priority in line. Or you can do a private jet and not worry about other passengers at all!
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Originally Posted by LondonElite
(Post 26413355)
There is no free lunch in life.
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I don't get the Hyatt DSU criticism: can't you apply it to the normal rates you'd otherwise book? Or do they have an airline-like structure where you must buy-up to an artificially high rate in order to be DSU-eligible.
Most Hyatt people on FT seem to value their DSU's pretty highly. Most of my top-tier hotel years have been HH and Marriott where true suite upgrades have become quite rare. In most cases, the biggest benefit I get out of hotel/airline elite statuses is access to basic, adequate customer service. Genuinely *good* customer service is of course reserved for the very, very top tier - UA Global Services and the like - which is way beyond my current rate of travel. But a low/mid-tier means you generally aren't treated horribly. (Stress generally...) |
Originally Posted by pinniped
(Post 26420626)
I don't get the Hyatt DSU criticism: can't you apply it to the normal rates you'd otherwise book? Or do they have an airline-like structure where you must buy-up to an artificially high rate in order to be DSU-eligible.
For Intercontinental Ambassador the room upgrade is guaranteed only if you booked with cash. For points bookings you don't get any room upgrade. |
Originally Posted by s0ssos
(Post 26420872)
It is applicable to any rate you use, just not with points (you can do points and cash). The point is that you have to have a cash component.
For Intercontinental Ambassador the room upgrade is guaranteed only if you booked with cash. For points bookings you don't get any room upgrade. In any case, I think there are still a lot of great points about Hyatt Diamond even if award+upgrade isn't a (confirmable) part of the program. |
status is getting something for something
if you earned status rather than paying for it, the earning (nights etc) = something careful looking at SPG considering merger with marriott |
It's a rebate from the customer's perspective, but from the airline/hotel perspective, it exists only to drive your *future* purchasing decisions.
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I've always regarded my almost complete uninterest in status as perhaps the greatest gift God bestowed on me at birth.
I love expensive stuff, and in fact my tastes are much more expensive than they ought to be. But "status" doesn't enter into it; lucky me. |
Originally Posted by pinniped
(Post 26420626)
I don't get the Hyatt DSU criticism: can't you apply it to the normal rates you'd otherwise book? Or do they have an airline-like structure where you must buy-up to an artificially high rate in order to be DSU-eligible.
Most Hyatt people on FT seem to value their DSU's pretty highly. Most of my top-tier hotel years have been HH and Marriott where true suite upgrades have become quite rare. In most cases, the biggest benefit I get out of hotel/airline elite statuses is access to basic, adequate customer service. Genuinely *good* customer service is of course reserved for the very, very top tier - UA Global Services and the like - which is way beyond my current rate of travel. But a low/mid-tier means you generally aren't treated horribly. (Stress generally...) To OP, I like the benefits of free breakfast and/or lounge access and the upgrades. I only have hotel status to compare to. |
I used exactly 0 of my DSUs, from a combination of staying mostly on points or at hotels without DSU availability. But then again, I'm a low-yield traveler and only had the Diamond from cash and points stays during a challenge.
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Originally Posted by deniah
(Post 26413527)
no, status is about having a gold-colored luggage tag to hang on your Targus backpack
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