letting the window seat deplane - what's the protocol....
Jul 28, 2015, 9:53 am
#31
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Being polite to 3 people at the expense of the 50 people waiting in the aisle behind you is not, overall, any sort of politeness. It's extreme rudeness. Just because you can't see the other people doesn't mean they don't exist.
Planes would empty a lot faster if right of way belonged to the people in the aisle who are already moving and ready to get off the plane at full walking speed, rather than the people who have to slowly climb into the aisle.
Planes would empty a lot faster if right of way belonged to the people in the aisle who are already moving and ready to get off the plane at full walking speed, rather than the people who have to slowly climb into the aisle.
Jul 28, 2015, 10:00 am
#32
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I see the same thing every single flight I'm on. Front or back. Usually by the same sort of d&ck head that puts his elbow in my rib cage in an attempt to block out "his" arm rest territory the entire flight. Or the Sky Priority gate lice that clamors around the priority boarding lane knowing full well they aren't in FC, yet, feel the need to clog it all up anyway. Or the morons that stand right at the edge of the baggage claim carousel instead of standing back so everyone can see, then stepping forward when they see their bag. People are so self-indulged and self-important these days that nobody can be bothered to take the time to act civilly.
Jul 28, 2015, 10:02 am
#33
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I always found people who waste my time rude. Those being slow cashiers and staff who chat with customers while there's a line ... that matches my threshold for 'rude'.
Jul 28, 2015, 10:18 am
#34
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It's not like I could reach their bag without rudely shoving them out of the way. But maybe that's what I should do.
My point is that just because someone seems ready to slowly ooze into the aisle, that doesn't mean he's anywhere near ready to get off the plane.
By waiting for the person in the seat in front of you to get in the aisle, you're being nice to one person and rude to the 50 standing behind you. But because you're not looking at them, they don't matter.
My point is that just because someone seems ready to slowly ooze into the aisle, that doesn't mean he's anywhere near ready to get off the plane.
By waiting for the person in the seat in front of you to get in the aisle, you're being nice to one person and rude to the 50 standing behind you. But because you're not looking at them, they don't matter.
Jul 28, 2015, 10:35 am
#35
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It may be inconvenient that people are in line (or on line if you prefer) ahead of you. But the fact that they are there is not rude.
David
Jul 28, 2015, 10:45 am
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What is really interesting (er, depressing), is the way that women are treated by men during the deplaning process.
About 10 years ago, my 21 year old daughter (an FO in those days) and I were sitting in row 4 of the F section on a 757 on a BWI-SLC sector. She was the only female out of 24 F pax. She was sitting in the aisle seat. When we got to SLC and the bell rang, she got up and was promptly pushed aside by a couple of DYKWIA-style goons. My wife, a PM, who often travels by herself and gets upgraded quite a bit, reports the same treatment from time to time.
One would expect better from successful men, to show a little common courtesy toward women.
Fortunately, there is an abundance of courtesy on most flights that I am on. Not all, but most.
About 10 years ago, my 21 year old daughter (an FO in those days) and I were sitting in row 4 of the F section on a 757 on a BWI-SLC sector. She was the only female out of 24 F pax. She was sitting in the aisle seat. When we got to SLC and the bell rang, she got up and was promptly pushed aside by a couple of DYKWIA-style goons. My wife, a PM, who often travels by herself and gets upgraded quite a bit, reports the same treatment from time to time.
One would expect better from successful men, to show a little common courtesy toward women.
Fortunately, there is an abundance of courtesy on most flights that I am on. Not all, but most.
Jul 28, 2015, 10:55 am
#37
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My personal favorite are those in any given ERJ/CRJ/other small jet who blindly push everyone out of their way to deplane as soon as possible only to wait on the jetway with everyone else to retrieve their gate-checked bag. No airline is safe from this particular flyer.
Always makes me feel better when their bag is among the last delivered.
Always makes me feel better when their bag is among the last delivered.
Jul 28, 2015, 11:04 am
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Jul 28, 2015, 12:12 pm
#39
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What is really interesting (er, depressing), is the way that women are treated by men during the deplaning process.
About 10 years ago, my 21 year old daughter (an FO in those days) and I were sitting in row 4 of the F section on a 757 on a BWI-SLC sector. She was the only female out of 24 F pax. She was sitting in the aisle seat. When we got to SLC and the bell rang, she got up and was promptly pushed aside by a couple of DYKWIA-style goons. My wife, a PM, who often travels by herself and gets upgraded quite a bit, reports the same treatment from time to time.
One would expect better from successful men, to show a little common courtesy toward women.
Fortunately, there is an abundance of courtesy on most flights that I am on. Not all, but most.
About 10 years ago, my 21 year old daughter (an FO in those days) and I were sitting in row 4 of the F section on a 757 on a BWI-SLC sector. She was the only female out of 24 F pax. She was sitting in the aisle seat. When we got to SLC and the bell rang, she got up and was promptly pushed aside by a couple of DYKWIA-style goons. My wife, a PM, who often travels by herself and gets upgraded quite a bit, reports the same treatment from time to time.
One would expect better from successful men, to show a little common courtesy toward women.
Fortunately, there is an abundance of courtesy on most flights that I am on. Not all, but most.
Jul 28, 2015, 12:20 pm
#40
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Slightly off topic, but somewhat related. When on 757 and the door is in between F and Coach, I'm always embarassed when I'm UG'd and they FA is holding the coach pax back so we can deplane. That's on case where it is being rude to the other pax, though the FA means well, I hate it.
Jul 28, 2015, 12:28 pm
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Slightly off topic, but somewhat related. When on 757 and the door is in between F and Coach, I'm always embarassed when I'm UG'd and they FA is holding the coach pax back so we can deplane. That's on case where it is being rude to the other pax, though the FA means well, I hate it.
I've also been sitting in the bulkhead row on the 757, and been told by the FA that I have to wait to F deplanes. Nope, the door is right there, and I'm heading out of it as soon as it opens.
Jul 28, 2015, 12:41 pm
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The rudest are cashiers who, while ringing up your order, insist on talking to someone else in line. That really frosts my tushie.
Jul 28, 2015, 1:12 pm
#44
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If I'm in the aisle ready to go, I will wait for passengers ahead of me to get going, even if that means waiting a second for them to pull their bags down. I've never seen it take particularly long, so the gap created is small. The gap usually disappears up front anyway, as people slow down a bit to make the turn up front and step onto the jet bridge.
If they are not prepared to get up and I can get past without bumping into them, I will. Some people want to take their time, which is fine with me. I doubt anyone has been bothered by my jumping past when they weren't even ready to step into the aisle.
In general, I've had very few problems with deplaning when the flight is on time. I rarely see people being especially slow or large gaps forming.
When flights are late, I see more issues. I will try to push past as well if I have a tight connection, but I will say so and try to politely ask people without connections to wait. Sometimes people are accommodating, sometimes not.
If they are not prepared to get up and I can get past without bumping into them, I will. Some people want to take their time, which is fine with me. I doubt anyone has been bothered by my jumping past when they weren't even ready to step into the aisle.
In general, I've had very few problems with deplaning when the flight is on time. I rarely see people being especially slow or large gaps forming.
When flights are late, I see more issues. I will try to push past as well if I have a tight connection, but I will say so and try to politely ask people without connections to wait. Sometimes people are accommodating, sometimes not.
Jul 28, 2015, 1:20 pm
#45
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Then there are also the ignorant few who having aisle seat and get their overhead bag before seatbelt signs go AND then charge up the aisles 10 rows or so as soon as plane stops but before seatbelt buzzer/light goes off to say you can
This is really annoying as passengers like myself who take aisle seats wish to stand up, and put our jackets on, and can't because some ingnoramus passenger is now standing by my seat flexing there elbows and backside and are these types can be verbally abusive too as happened on a recent flight LHR-AMS , the culprit was an African Merican mid twenties USA accented female so no male stereotype here !
I got whacked in my kidneys as I was attempting to stand up into aisle from my seat with her elbows with quite some force and she physically pushed me back into the seat having knocked me off balance ... And I am not small As I weigh about 100kg
This is really annoying as passengers like myself who take aisle seats wish to stand up, and put our jackets on, and can't because some ingnoramus passenger is now standing by my seat flexing there elbows and backside and are these types can be verbally abusive too as happened on a recent flight LHR-AMS , the culprit was an African Merican mid twenties USA accented female so no male stereotype here !
I got whacked in my kidneys as I was attempting to stand up into aisle from my seat with her elbows with quite some force and she physically pushed me back into the seat having knocked me off balance ... And I am not small As I weigh about 100kg