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BigFlyer Jul 15, 2015 2:53 pm

Major Differences in Carrier 777 Coach Configurations (# of seats across)
 
I just flew a Turkish 777 in coach, having flown an Alitalia 777 in coach a few years ago in which I felt more cramped.

Turns out there are major differences in 777 coach comfort as many airlines squeeze in an extra seat across.

Quick look on Seatguru, here are some airlines that have 9 seats across (3 + 3 + 3) on 777 coach: KL (two different configurations, one with 10, one with 9), DL, UA, TK,

And some with 10 across (3 + 4 + 3): AZ, AF, KL (two different configurations, one with 10, one with 9), EK, AA.

sbm12 Jul 15, 2015 2:59 pm

Yup, the difference between 9 or 10 across on the 777 is significant for many passengers. Just like 8 or 9 on the 787 or A330. And, while not flying yet 10 on the A350 or 11 on the A380, both of which Airbus is willing to sell versus the "normal" 9 or 10 those planes typically carry.

The bad news is that new 777 deliveries & retrofits are, more and more, seeing the 10-across option. LX just announced that it would do such on its 77Ws and, while not official from the company, UA is likely to do so as well.

leops1984 Jul 15, 2015 10:08 pm

Many of the east Asian carriers are still 9-abreast on the 777. OZ, KE, CX, BR, SQ, and JL all do that. CI and NH are the big ones that have gone 10-abreast.

superangrypenguin Jul 15, 2015 10:24 pm

10 shortly coming on AC.

Just kill me.

SeriouslyLost Jul 15, 2015 11:32 pm


Originally Posted by superangrypenguin (Post 25124014)
10 shortly coming on AC.

Just kill me.

It's AC: adding more pain wouldn't register any more. :-/

VivoPerLei Jul 16, 2015 10:59 am

Yep. I just booked my upcoming LHR-LAX trip on UA solely for that reason. I really, really wanted to fly NZ but in the end I couldn't fathom how miserable the ten across would be.

ft101 Jul 17, 2015 9:28 am

Been on EK in 10 across several times and it's no big deal. Most of the difference is in the aisles, not in the other seats, which are typically no more than an inch narrower.

I'd rather have an extra inch pitch - wider people might like it across the way.

mmff Jul 17, 2015 12:47 pm


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 25131872)
Been on EK in 10 across several times and it's no big deal. Most of the difference is in the aisles, not in the other seats, which are typically no more than an inch narrower.

I'd rather have an extra inch pitch - wider people might like it across the way.

+1.

sbm12 Jul 19, 2015 7:43 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 25131872)
I'd rather have an extra inch pitch - wider people might like it across the way.

Not all carriers add the extra pitch when going 10-across. AC and AA definitely do not.

Originally Posted by superangrypenguin (Post 25124014)
10 shortly coming on AC.

AC has been 10-across on the 77W since it was introduced.

ft101 Jul 19, 2015 10:44 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 25139511)
Not all carriers add the extra pitch when going 10-across. AC and AA definitely do not.

I never quoted it, but was responding to post #6 which mentioned choosing UA over NZ. There is greater pitch on the latter.

sbm12 Jul 19, 2015 5:52 pm


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 25140181)
I never quoted it, but was responding to post #6 which mentioned choosing UA over NZ. There is greater pitch on the latter.

Unless you're in E+.

Kiwi Flyer Jul 20, 2015 1:52 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 25140181)
I never quoted it, but was responding to post #6 which mentioned choosing UA over NZ. There is greater pitch on the latter.

The days of Air NZ having generous seat pitch on international are long gone. E.g. on 777 and 787 NZ generally 31 inch pitch, compares with UA 31 inch pitch on 777 and 32 inch pitch on 787 (and more in economy +).

ft101 Jul 20, 2015 6:22 am


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 25142967)
The days of Air NZ having generous seat pitch on international are long gone. E.g. on 777 and 787 NZ generally 31 inch pitch, compares with UA 31 inch pitch on 777 and 32 inch pitch on 787 (and more in economy +).

I'll take your word for it. I was going by their website which shows 32 to 33 inches for B777-300 in Y.

http://www.airnewzealand.co.uk/seat-map-boeing-777-300

Foxtbh Jul 21, 2015 5:53 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 25143562)
I'll take your word for it. I was going by their website which shows 32 to 33 inches for B777-300 in Y.

http://www.airnewzealand.co.uk/seat-map-boeing-777-300

NZ is 33 on the outside rows and 32 on the centre row, IIRC.

ft101 Jul 23, 2015 12:56 am


Originally Posted by Foxtbh (Post 25148729)
NZ is 33 on the outside rows and 32 on the centre row, IIRC.

Which brings us back to the argument of choosing UA over NZ in post #6. I'd go for NZ for the extra pitch. Shorter, wider people may choose the width.

However Kiwi Flyer disagrees with your pitch recollection so it's all hypothetical.


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