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sbm12 Jun 25, 2015 7:14 am

New US-Caribbean service from Norwegian
 
The US/EU(+Iceland/Norway) Open Skies treaty is getting a workout these days. Norwegian announced today that it will use the 7th Freedom rights included in that treaty to launch service between the US and France. With the catch being that "France" in this case is Guadelope and Martinique, two islands in the Caribbean. Service from BOS/JFK/BWI will be 2-3x daily for each route for the winter season.

http://blog.wandr.me/2015/06/norwegi...ibbean-routes/
http://blog.wandr.me/wp-content/uplo...il-300x300.jpg

http://media.norwegian.com/us/#/pres...ibbean-1184050

n.b. Link above goes to my blog. You've been warned.

pinniped Jun 25, 2015 7:29 am

Excellent news. I love this airline, even though I'm not sure if I'll ever be in position to take one of their flights. :cool:

ajGoes Jun 25, 2015 8:59 am

This is terrific. I've been hoping to visit those very islands this winter, but getting there was kind of difficult.

84fiero Jun 25, 2015 10:32 am

Always good to see some new options for things, thanks for the info.

erik123 Jun 25, 2015 10:53 am

Flights already loaded.

Big4Flyer Jun 25, 2015 11:57 am

Richard Anderson has got to be pulling his hair out now, oh wait....

nmh1204 Jun 25, 2015 12:19 pm

There's no "catch". Martinique and Guadaloupe are legally part of France, they are called Overseas Departments - Départaments d'Outre Mer. Its the same as Hawaii being one of the 50 states.

TheBOSman Jun 25, 2015 1:08 pm

New US-Caribbean service from Norwegian
 
I dare them to start service USA-Tahiti :D.

sbm12 Jun 25, 2015 1:36 pm


Originally Posted by nmh1204 (Post 25026566)
There's no "catch". Martinique and Guadaloupe are legally part of France, they are called Overseas Departments - Départaments d'Outre Mer. Its the same as Hawaii being one of the 50 states.

So is Puerto Rico, except when it is not.


Originally Posted by TheBOSman (Post 25026830)
I dare them to start service USA-Tahiti :D.

Would be legal based on the 7th Freedom rules, though less likely to happen until they get more 787s in house. HNL-PPT is probably at the edge of the range, but it might be possible.

nmh1204 Jun 25, 2015 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 25026949)
So is Puerto Rico, except when it is not.

no, Puerto Rico is an unincorportated territory, not part of the 50 US states, whereas Guadaloupe and Martinique are legislatively Departments of France, the same as a US state. Puerto Rico is the same as the Colectivités of France, which are unincorporated territories.

erik123 Jun 25, 2015 1:51 pm

Hope they add JFK-NOU and PPT next week.

nmh1204 Jun 25, 2015 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by erik123 (Post 25027033)
Hope they add JFK-NOU and PPT next week.

That'd be nice, but I don't think they'd have the right aircraft for it

pinniped Jun 25, 2015 3:14 pm


Originally Posted by nmh1204 (Post 25026972)
no, Puerto Rico is an unincorportated territory, not part of the 50 US states, whereas Guadaloupe and Martinique are legislatively Departments of France, the same as a US state. Puerto Rico is the same as the Colectivités of France, which are unincorporated territories.

I thought the French Region was more akin to a U.S. State than the Departments. (Of course, those two are Regions as well...so yes, agree the Hawaii analogy is closer than the Puerto Rico analogy.)

rankourabu Jun 25, 2015 3:31 pm

So which one of these can they fly to?

BDA, SXM, AUA, EIS, PLS, GCM, BON, CUR

Good luck to them! Competition is great.

kochleffel Jun 25, 2015 3:32 pm

I wondered if Norwegian might also like to fly to St. Pierre and Miquelon, but I see that they are a collectivité territoriale, not an overseas department.


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