Premium Passengers as a % of Total
 

This chart from IATA may help explain why J class seats are being ripped out.

https://image-store.slidesharecdn.co...c-original.png

I believe the data is aggregated from all IATA members, but it does resonate here.
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13F

Interesting how little premium travel has recovered since the 2008/2009 recession. Suggests to me that companies have permanently adjusted travel policies rather than putting in a short-term "survival" adjustment.

Interesting indeed, but doesn't really tell the whole story without a similar graph showing the increase in overall passengers. We know density is increasing and more pax are being crammed onto planes, so 6.5% in mid-2008 might very well represent fewer premium pax than 5.75% in 2015.

As always, you can use stats to prove whatever you want :)

They should also know better than to produce a chart that doesn't have 0 as the axis cross point without a clear indicate that that's what they're doing...

Exactly. Every organization that i know of (friends/familys employers) including mine had their travel policy revised during the last recession but it never changed back to the way it was.

What does that chart represent? AC only, Canadian airlines, North American, global?

How do they define "Premium". If Premium = J+F, then sure, there's a 15% decline. Does it include W ? (Premium Economy?), I have to think that the rise of W displaces some of the more price conscious J travel, esp on TATL where the flight times aren't so long.

I do figure out how to only fly J on intercontinental flights, but I have to think that many companies are unwilling to shell out 3-10x the cost of an economy flight for a few hours of comfort.

Exactly.
If global - then really.. it represents nothing, trends are different around the world

An SQA380 is 24% premium seating, and an AC777HD is <8%.
Some airlines just have economy seating, especially shorthaul.
Is that included in the chart?

What would the chart look like if it started in 2000 or earlier?

As this is not specifically an Air Canada or Aeroplan topic it's been relocated to the TravelBuzz forum.

tcook052
AC Forum Moderator

This is a terrible graphic, looks like something Fox News would put out to push whatever cheap agenda is the flavor of the week. We need a zero for reference. It's so easy to make a 1% drop look ENORMOUS when you can mess with the scale.

So since 2010 premium passenger traffic has fluctuated less than half a percentage point. I would think that means it is pretty stable, no?

What are they measuring, though? I mean, the number of passengers who booked flights in the premium cabin? Business and first, or just first? What about correlation to average price paid?

Do you have a linkt othe data by any chance? That could be interesting.

Here is where I found the chart:

http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/Documen...itor-Mar15.pdf
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13F

Exactly. Making a 15% drop appear to be a 50% drop is extremely misleading. And not providing historical context also is a failure - was it 4% from 2000-2008 and this is a 9 month upward blip in 15 years of consistent data?

And if you look at the pdf noted above, the other graphic is even worse. Overall passenger traffic has apparently increased 10x over the last 6 years. And growth rates of different passenger classes are made to appear equal using differing growth %'s consuming the same distance on the y axis. Simply terrible.

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Lies, Damn Lies and statistics :p