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Christopher May 21, 2015 1:26 am


Originally Posted by sedubby (Post 24836820)
How do you figure what to tip (if at all), who to tip, and how much when traveling abroad? Is it something you actually take the time to research or just kind of figure out on the fly?

It isn't something I even think about before I go abroad, but have made a few embarrassing mistakes over the years (i.e. trying to tip a taxi driver in Singapore). Still something I am often confused about (esp. in global hotel brands abroad).

One thing I would say: people in few countries, if any, are as worked up about tipping as people in the US seem to be. People in most places adopt much more of a "take it as it comes" approach than people in the US do. I for example have tipped Singapore taxi drivers (is that not done?), and the country hasn't collapsed.

Another odd thing I have noticed about some Americans: when they ask a local person what the appropriate approach is to tipping in a particular situation, if the answer they get indicates something different from what they would do in the US, then they don't believe the answer. This obviously doesn't apply to all Americans, but I've seen on a number of occasions and it has always struck me as odd - if you're not going to believe the answer why ask the question?

Annalisa12 May 21, 2015 2:29 am


Originally Posted by Doc Savage (Post 24836915)
Just go by the waiter recommendations.

They'll recommend you tip $100 per round! ;)

warakorn May 21, 2015 3:33 am

Tipping in foreign countries: the most stressful experience with tipping I always had in the US.

User Name May 21, 2015 4:53 am


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 24842906)
I tip abroad as I do at home. I'm not going to overthink it or fret about whether I've offended someone by offering a gratuity.

I've probably over tipped in some places, under tipped in others and don't care.

In all that time I've only had a tip returned once and not because I tipped but because it was deemed to be too much.

Do you try to adopt any local customs or do you do everything like you would have done at home? I'm just wondering that while the tipping thing hasn't caused any problems that you were aware of yet, have you encountered difficulties or caused offense through other actions?

BadgerBoi May 21, 2015 5:03 am


Originally Posted by sedubby (Post 24836902)
Why is there no information about bar tipping? That seems to be a critical missing piece IMO.

Easy:
US: Tip the bar staff.
Everywhere Else In The World: Don't.

Badenoch May 21, 2015 5:55 am


Originally Posted by User Name (Post 24848454)
Do you try to adopt any local customs or do you do everything like you would have done at home? I'm just wondering that while the tipping thing hasn't caused any problems that you were aware of yet, have you encountered difficulties or caused offense through other actions?

I learn about and adapt to many local customs when travelling. Gratuities to service providers however do not fall into that category.

I do work in a couple of developing countries and find the attitude of "don't spoil the locals with tips" to be far more offensive than occasionally offending someone in those few countries where tips are not a cultural norm.

To be frank I consider the obsession with tipping while travelling to be a preoccupation of cheapskates whose goal is avoid tipping under the guise of being "culturally sensitive." :rolleyes:

Scots_Al May 21, 2015 11:32 am


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 24848613)
I learn about and adapt to many local customs when travelling. Gratuities to service providers however do not fall into that category.

I do work in a couple of developing countries and find the attitude of "don't spoil the locals with tips" to be far more offensive than occasionally offending someone in those few countries where tips are not a cultural norm.

To be frank I consider the obsession with tipping while travelling to be a preoccupation of cheapskates whose goal is avoid tipping under the guise of being "culturally sensitive." :rolleyes:

But it's more than "spoiling" the locals - overtipping can seriously harm an economy. If those who work in (largely unskilled or semi-skilled) jobs which interact with tourists earn more than doctors, nurses, teachers, etc. then no-one will want to do those jobs!

onobond May 21, 2015 12:38 pm


Originally Posted by Scots_Al (Post 24850222)
But it's more than "spoiling" the locals - overtipping can seriously harm an economy. If those who work in (largely unskilled or semi-skilled) jobs which interact with tourists earn more than doctors, nurses, teachers, etc. then no-one will want to do those jobs!

Would the solution be to also tip the "doctors, nurses, teachers, etc" ?

Why not try out the unusual tip to the polite cop who hands you a speeding ticket with a smile, wishing you a Nice Day ? :rolleyes:

darthbimmer May 21, 2015 2:44 pm


Originally Posted by Christopher (Post 24848003)
One thing I would say: people in few countries, if any, are as worked up about tipping as people in the US seem to be.

Simple. The US is pretty much the only country where tipping is socially mandatory. If you don't tip here, your friends and acquaintances will call you out on it, criticizing you for being a cheapskate and denying workers their fair wages. Workers themselves will register anger, too, using rude language and hand gestures. Lest you think they'll be disciplined for it, their managers are likely to do the same. If you return to that business it's possible you'll be remembered as "the one" who didn't tip, and you'll receive poor service.

In short, Americans get worked up about tipping because it's so important domestically. Virtually anywhere else in the world tipping is truly discretionary, so it's much less of an issue.


Another odd thing I have noticed about some Americans: when they ask a local person what the appropriate approach is to tipping in a particular situation, if the answer they get indicates something different from what they would do in the US, then they don't believe the answer.
There are overly proud fools in every culture.

sedubby May 21, 2015 4:14 pm

This forum inspired me to make an app for referencing tipping customs by country.

I finished it this morning (very simple, but nicely designed if I do say so myself). I'm calling it "KnowTip" (get it?) and it should be out in the App Store in the next week or so. Look out!

Efrem May 21, 2015 6:33 pm


Originally Posted by BadgerBoi (Post 24848478)
Easy:
US: Tip the bar staff.
Everywhere Else In The World: Don't.

Not quite that simple. If you stand a round for your table at a U.K. pub, it's common to tell the bartender "have half a pint on me." A 'tender who actually drank all those half pints would be totally sloshed before the evening was half over, but the price will be added to your tab as a tip - while avoiding the messy, somewhat degrading, bit of asking for money.

BadgerBoi May 21, 2015 8:27 pm


Originally Posted by Efrem (Post 24852065)
Not quite that simple. If you stand a round for your table at a U.K. pub, it's common to tell the bartender "have half a pint on me." A 'tender who actually drank all those half pints would be totally sloshed before the evening was half over, but the price will be added to your tab as a tip - while avoiding the messy, somewhat degrading, bit of asking for money.

Thanks, but I was actually using irony in an attempt to point out to the op that he was overthinking things, and it really wouldn't matter to more than 97% of the world's population. There is no need to add a "tipping in bars" section to the existing list.

You're not going to get a bad reaction if you fail to buy one for the bartender. I stand by the point I was making in my sarcastic post :)

cbn42 May 21, 2015 11:34 pm


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 24842906)
I tip abroad as I do at home. I'm not going to overthink it or fret about whether I've offended someone by offering a gratuity.

I've probably over tipped in some places, under tipped in others and don't care.

In all that time I've only had a tip returned once and not because I tipped but because it was deemed to be too much.

Wow, really? It's one thing to overtip in developing countries where the workers really need the money. However, in a developed country where workers are paid properly, overtipping is going to be seen as offensive and rude. This is exactly the type of behavior that creates the "arrogant American traveler" stereotype. If you "don't care" about offending the local culture when you travel, it's probably best to stay at home.


Originally Posted by darthbimmer (Post 24851168)
Simple. The US is pretty much the only country where tipping is socially mandatory. If you don't tip here, your friends and acquaintances will call you out on it, criticizing you for being a cheapskate and denying workers their fair wages. Workers themselves will register anger, too, using rude language and hand gestures. Lest you think they'll be disciplined for it, their managers are likely to do the same. If you return to that business it's possible you'll be remembered as "the one" who didn't tip, and you'll receive poor service.

I think this is pretty much true. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the US is also the only country where there are "tip credits", meaning that tipped employees can be paid less than minimum wage, provided that their tips bring them up to the minimum. Most US states have this system, but I've never heard of it anywhere else.

Scots_Al May 22, 2015 12:14 am


Originally Posted by Efrem (Post 24852065)
Not quite that simple. If you stand a round for your table at a U.K. pub, it's common to tell the bartender "have half a pint on me." A 'tender who actually drank all those half pints would be totally sloshed before the evening was half over, but the price will be added to your tab as a tip - while avoiding the messy, somewhat degrading, bit of asking for money.

Hmm. I'd say not uncommon rather than common. Very rare that I would tip a barman here.

onobond May 22, 2015 1:08 pm


Originally Posted by Scots_Al (Post 24853044)
Hmm. I'd say not uncommon rather than common. Very rare that I would tip a barman here.

Agree with you. In Western Europe, some people may leave loose change. My reason for doing so that it's a convenient place to get rid of'em. Only places I've seen it are the uber-posh places where the "tip" is given in a show-off manner.


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