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Interesting maneuver at IAD this morning

Interesting maneuver at IAD this morning

Old Apr 7, 15, 7:14 am
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Interesting maneuver at IAD this morning

I've noticed during my morning commute that Emirates has a daily (or perhaps a few days a week, I don't see it every morning) flight landing at IAD around 08:30. (I love their livery, so always admire the planes when I see them.) This morning I saw an unusual maneuver:

A small UA plane came in to land and very shortly after it (perhaps too close, I don't know) I saw a larger Emirates plane on the same southbound approach but veer sharply and suddenly to the left. I thought maybe he was too close to the UA, so was asked to go around. But he continued his turn until he was flying back toward the north east. Do you guys think they re-routed him at the last minute to BWI or something? It was very odd. He didn't look like he was in trouble, but it was a very sharp veer off the approach and not the usual go-around pattern that flights do when in a holding pattern around IAD.
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Old Apr 7, 15, 7:27 am
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Interesting maneuver at IAD this morning

Flightaware.com will show you the actual routing.
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Old Apr 7, 15, 7:30 am
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Flightaware shows EK 231 arriving at IAD at 8:52 a.m. today.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...220Z/OMDB/KIAD
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Old Apr 7, 15, 8:52 am
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Originally Posted by kochleffel View Post
Flightaware shows EK 231 arriving at IAD at 8:52 a.m. today.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...220Z/OMDB/KIAD
You can see that it is a go around.
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Old Apr 7, 15, 11:45 am
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Oh thanks! Ah, yeah, that loop at the end is exactly what I saw (the beginning of). Fun stuff! Maybe he was too close to that little jet like I thought.

So that I can find things like this on my own next time, how did you search for it? Flightaware needs both the origin and destination. Did you guess that it was likely to be originating in DXB because of the carrier?

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Old Apr 7, 15, 12:15 pm
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Originally Posted by jcwoman View Post
Did you guess that it was likely to be originating in DXB because of the carrier?
Yes, exactly. This wouldn't have worked if it had been a UA plane.
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Old Apr 7, 15, 2:31 pm
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Based on that track my guess is that the tower or approach controllers sent Emirates around due to spacing between it and the United plane, and rather than make the Emirates do the full missed approach just vectored them back around onto final approach.
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Old Apr 7, 15, 4:09 pm
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Originally Posted by jcwoman View Post

So that I can find things like this on my own next time, how did you search for it? Flightaware needs both the origin and destination. Did you guess that it was likely to be originating in DXB because of the carrier?
EK only flies daily from DXB. On Flightaware you can put flight number, origin and destination or just KIAD status for all flights enroute, scheduled, departed and scheduled departures.
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Old Apr 8, 15, 10:58 am
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It was not really a true go around, it is known as a 360 on final (assuming the radar track is correct). Basically you fly a circle to get spacing if no one is behind you. I have had to do it a couple of times in a Cessna 152 on base leg, can't imagine trying to do it in an 777-300 but I am sure it wasn't a big deal for the pros.
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Old Apr 8, 15, 12:55 pm
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Yeah, he handled it well, but he veered off the approach so sharply that it caught my attention. He was well within the gear-down range so I stared at him for a few seconds to make sure he wasn't in trouble. The radar track looks exactly right to me.
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Old Apr 23, 15, 12:04 am
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You can listen to the approach side of the conversation here:

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ki...2015-1200Z.mp3
(skip to 26 minutes)

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ki...2015-1230Z.mp3
(for the rest of it)
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Old Apr 23, 15, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by jybrick View Post
You can listen to the approach side of the conversation here:

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ki...2015-1200Z.mp3
(skip to 26 minutes)

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ki...2015-1230Z.mp3
(for the rest of it)
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