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psychocandy Apr 2, 2015 4:32 am

Flying when ill with bronchitis
 
Wife is OK at the moment. Unwell but not really bad.
Today GP has diagnosed bronchitis - we're flying Saturday.

Don't want to but, if she was unwell would we be able to cancel and claim? Or would travel insurance only allow this for 'serious' illness? (we do have travel insurance)

I guess you'd need a docs opinion that you were unfit to fly? Does feeling unwell count or is it just tough luck?

Obviously, want to know before cancelling....

BTW in the UK if it makes any difference. Flight is short - 2.5 hours with Ryanair a budget airline.

LondonElite Apr 2, 2015 4:40 am

You'll get no sympathy from Ryanair and I wouldn't even bother trying to claim with them.

Your travel insurance may qualify, but read the sections on pre-existing conditions and disruptions to your journey before you travel to see whether it is indeed so. If the doctor has diagnosed bronchitis, it's not really a case of 'feeling' unwell; she is! The easiest thing is probably to call the insurance provider and find out.

Would she want to travel (and be on holiday) with bronchitis?

psychocandy Apr 2, 2015 4:52 am

Seems a very grey area indeed. Well she told GP today that she was flying and he didn't say not to fly.

I guess without a health professional advising you not to fly and willing to document it then you've had it with insurance anyway. Its annual travel insurance and all pre-existing are covered and notified.

Yep not ideal but then faced with the idea of not being able to reschedule or cancel and lose probably £1000 (flights plus car hire plus accom) what do you do?

I'd have to be bleeding out of my eyeballs to cough this one up! :-)

LondonElite Apr 2, 2015 4:59 am

Yes, without a doctor's note you'll get nowhere with insurance. Oh well, keep calm and soldier on I guess. Hope she feels better quickly.

CoolMike Apr 2, 2015 7:44 am

If she was given antibiotics for the bronchitis there is a good chance she will be feeling much better by Saturday or Sunday.

Of course, its hard to say how an infection will react to most common antibiotics these days - its no sure thing anymore.

Good luck!

psychocandy Apr 2, 2015 8:06 am


Originally Posted by CoolMike (Post 24605260)
If she was given antibiotics for the bronchitis there is a good chance she will be feeling much better by Saturday or Sunday.

Of course, its hard to say how an infection will react to most common antibiotics these days - its no sure thing anymore.

Good luck!

Of course, fingers crossed. I just wanted to be prepared for the worst!

Anti-biotics and steroids she now has.

burbuja0512 Apr 2, 2015 12:17 pm

I would recommend traveling with a mask if she's coughing/sniffling frequently. I know it's embarrassing to wear one, but at the very least, she'll look like a courteous traveler. Even if she's not contagious due to antibiotics, wear the mask just to show people that you're doing your best to stop the germs from coming their way. I think it's the least that sick people can do when traveling and might keep someone from being rude to her when she feels terrible.

SkiAdcock Apr 3, 2015 4:09 pm


Originally Posted by psychocandy (Post 24605357)
Of course, fingers crossed. I just wanted to be prepared for the worst!

Anti-biotics and steroids she now has.

I flew a few years ago LAX-LHR w/ bronchitis. Saw the doc in advance, said I really had to be in London, & he really piled me up w/ antibiotics & steroids (which I had to keep taking in London). I made it through the trip, but if I hadn't had those in advance/few days to kick in it would have been tough.

Cheers.

Badenoch Apr 5, 2015 6:27 am


Originally Posted by burbuja0512 (Post 24606608)
I would recommend traveling with a mask if she's coughing/sniffling frequently. I know it's embarrassing to wear one, but at the very least, she'll look like a courteous traveler. Even if she's not contagious due to antibiotics, wear the mask just to show people that you're doing your best to stop the germs from coming their way. I think it's the least that sick people can do when traveling and might keep someone from being rude to her when she feels terrible.

Do you wear a mask if you have a cough? I don't and wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Wearing a mask could in a place where it's not a cultural norm be interpreted as indicative of a far worse condition than simple bronchitis. Someone wearing a mask could make people more uncomfortable than someone simply coughing occasionally and properly covering their mouth.

nlkm9 Apr 5, 2015 7:44 am

disagree about a mask--several years ago when I started flying I had bronchitis and a cough I couldnt seem to shake--I was finally feeling better but very vulnerable and wore a mask to protect myself and others....wearing a mask could mean someone is undergoing chemotherapy, or is feeling vulnerable.....

Jane42 Apr 5, 2015 10:15 am


Originally Posted by nlkm9 (Post 24619220)
disagree about a mask--several years ago when I started flying I had bronchitis and a cough I couldnt seem to shake--I was finally feeling better but very vulnerable and wore a mask to protect myself and others....wearing a mask could mean someone is undergoing chemotherapy, or is feeling vulnerable.....

You are very compassionate - I have just finished a year of chemo and radiation for cancer and this would be most appreciated for my flight that is coming up BUT I understand that people are reluctant to wear a mask for many reasons.

Of course, on the other hand, I had a cold a few weeks ago and cannot seem to shake the cough - so annoying!

OP - I hope your wife's travels were not too uncomfortable and that she is feeling better!

nlkm9 Apr 5, 2015 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by Jane42 (Post 24619734)
You are very compassionate - I have just finished a year of chemo and radiation for cancer and this would be most appreciated for my flight that is coming up BUT I understand that people are reluctant to wear a mask for many reasons.

Of course, on the other hand, I had a cold a few weeks ago and cannot seem to shake the cough - so annoying!

OP - I hope your wife's travels were not too uncomfortable and that she is feeling better!



I have no judgement when I see someone with a mask, except maybe to think they must not be well. hope you are feeling better!!

Badenoch Apr 5, 2015 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by nlkm9 (Post 24619220)
disagree about a mask--several years ago when I started flying I had bronchitis and a cough I couldnt seem to shake--I was finally feeling better but very vulnerable and wore a mask to protect myself and others....wearing a mask could mean someone is undergoing chemotherapy, or is feeling vulnerable.....

If you wish to wear a mask that is up to you and you'll get no argument from me.

But it's quite a different matter when people exhort passengers to wear them using vapid clichés such as "courteous traveler" and "it's the least that sick people can do when traveling." :rolleyes:

drvannostren Apr 5, 2015 5:04 pm

Oh man, the mask thing. Took my first trip to asia recently and was totally weirded out by it. Not that I've never seen them...growing up in Vancouver you see them all over the place. Much like the Asian grannies with sun visors. What you don't see is them en masse.

Spent some time in Tokyo and 5 days in Seoul and wow, these things seemed to be on 2/5 travelers. I couldn't decide if they were sick or trying to avoid getting sick by other people, OR a combo!?

I'd say you'll get jack squat from Ryanair, get a doctor's note from the GP like a get out of work free card and then call the insurance guys. If they are able to make a decent offer, then decide if there's no offer, then depending on how much money you're gonna lose, you'll have to decide.

nrr Apr 6, 2015 10:55 pm

In the Flushing, NY (in the borough of Queens, NYC), there is a large oriental population--lots of people wear face masks.

BRITINJAPAN3 Apr 6, 2015 11:27 pm


Originally Posted by drvannostren (Post 24621232)
Oh man, the mask thing. Took my first trip to asia recently and was totally weirded out by it. Not that I've never seen them...growing up in Vancouver you see them all over the place. Much like the Asian grannies with sun visors. What you don't see is them en masse.

Spent some time in Tokyo and 5 days in Seoul and wow, these things seemed to be on 2/5 travelers. I couldn't decide if they were sick or trying to avoid getting sick by other people, OR a combo!?

I'd say you'll get jack squat from Ryanair, get a doctor's note from the GP like a get out of work free card and then call the insurance guys. If they are able to make a decent offer, then decide if there's no offer, then depending on how much money you're gonna lose, you'll have to decide.

I have never understood the recations to masks. I dont like wearing them but I do hwen i have a cold to avoid spreading germs around the world, and certainly wish the person I caught the cold from had been wearing one !!
Others wer them due to polution or to avoid hay fever, to avoid catching colds, avoid wearing make up......etc etc many reasons but no problems for you I think.

I agree its not Ryanairs problem, OP have insurance, why the hesitation to check if he can claim and then if he needs to he will know ?

nlkm9 Apr 7, 2015 5:43 pm


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 24620438)
If you wish to wear a mask that is up to you and you'll get no argument from me.

But it's quite a different matter when people exhort passengers to wear them using vapid clichés such as "courteous traveler" and "it's the least that sick people can do when traveling." :rolleyes:


I dont think its "vapid" it is being considerate of others around you.

BRITINJAPAN3 Apr 7, 2015 7:29 pm


Originally Posted by nlkm9 (Post 24632022)
I dont think its "vapid" it is being considerate of others around you.

+1

amandamcadams Apr 7, 2015 8:37 pm

Sometimes, the trip itself isn't important, but hotels and airlines have made it prohibitively expensive to cancel and rebook your trip. So people fly sick and hope for a healthy trip.

Badenoch Apr 8, 2015 4:51 am


Originally Posted by nlkm9 (Post 24632022)
I dont think its "vapid" it is being considerate of others around you.

There are too many self-appointed hall monitors and self-important busy bodies who believe it is their role in life to declare what is "considerate" and then press their views on others using silly clichés and weak attempts at moral suasion.

nlkm9 Apr 8, 2015 11:57 am


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 24633976)
There are too many self-appointed hall monitors and self-important busy bodies who believe it is their role in life to declare what is "considerate" and then press their views on others using silly clichés and weak attempts at moral suasion.



there may be a kernel of truth in that statement but conversely there are too many people who walk around with a "I dont give a damn about anyone else attitude" and its just sad.
Its seriously common sense that if you are really ill and you cant cancel (and lest face it, most of us cannot afford to) that at least you might make even a half hearted attempt to not cough on others in th hopes that maybe someday someone might be that kind to you.

nlkm9 Apr 8, 2015 11:58 am


Originally Posted by BRITINJAPAN3 (Post 24627704)
I have never understood the recations to masks. I dont like wearing them but I do hwen i have a cold to avoid spreading germs around the world, and certainly wish the person I caught the cold from had been wearing one !!
Others wer them due to polution or to avoid hay fever, to avoid catching colds, avoid wearing make up......etc etc many reasons but no problems for you I think.

I agree its not Ryanairs problem, OP have insurance, why the hesitation to check if he can claim and then if he needs to he will know ?

lol to avoid wearing makeup??

Need Apr 8, 2015 2:30 pm


Originally Posted by Jane42 (Post 24619734)
Of course, on the other hand, I had a cold a few weeks ago and cannot seem to shake the cough - so annoying!

Kind of OT, but try Black Elderberry Extract like this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Natures-Answer...ack+elderberry

I recommended it to all my friends who got stubborn not going away cough, and it works for all of them. I first discovered when I had a cough lasting over a months and kept me up every night. It doesn't stop the cough or feel any different in the first few days. But after a week or 2 using it 3-4 times a day.. the cough was gone completely.

nlkm9 Apr 8, 2015 6:40 pm


Originally Posted by Need (Post 24636664)
Kind of OT, but try Black Elderberry Extract like this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Natures-Answer...ack+elderberry

I recommended it to all my friends who got stubborn not going away cough, and it works for all of them. I first discovered when I had a cough lasting over a months and kept me up every night. It doesn't stop the cough or feel any different in the first few days. But after a week or 2 using it 3-4 times a day.. the cough was gone completely.

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I have asthma so if I get a cough it sounds so scary, lol--I may try that but havent been sick for a long time (knock on wood).

gspurr Apr 8, 2015 6:50 pm

Whenever I see people wearing masks on planes or in airports I usually think that they are trying to avoid catching germs rather than avoiding spreading them.

Jane42 Apr 8, 2015 8:12 pm


Originally Posted by Need (Post 24636664)
Kind of OT, but try Black Elderberry Extract like this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Natures-Answer...ack+elderberry

I recommended it to all my friends who got stubborn not going away cough, and it works for all of them. I first discovered when I had a cough lasting over a months and kept me up every night. It doesn't stop the cough or feel any different in the first few days. But after a week or 2 using it 3-4 times a day.. the cough was gone completely.

Thanks!

BRITINJAPAN3 Apr 8, 2015 8:14 pm


Originally Posted by nlkm9 (Post 24635970)
lol to avoid wearing makeup??

Yes, in japan there was a syrvey on TV recently, a lot of girs said they wore masks as they could not be bothered with makeup. I found this difficult to believe but asked my (Japanese) wife and apparantly its true !

BRITINJAPAN3 Apr 8, 2015 8:15 pm


Originally Posted by gspurr (Post 24637722)
Whenever I see people wearing masks on planes or in airports I usually think that they are trying to avoid catching germs rather than avoiding spreading them.

Could be either


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