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Crash course in learning a new language
Going to Greece at the end of May so I'm looking to pick up the extreme basics of the language, or about as much as I can learn in the next 2 months. I want to do this because we'll be venturing into some areas where English might not be widely spoken.
Anyone done this before going on a trip? What's the best way? There's Rosetta Stone obviously, but I'm not sure that's the best method for what I have in mind. What about youtube? Anyone ever tried picking up some basics off youtube? Any other good sites? |
Pimsleur
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Originally Posted by Jesperss
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Pimsleur
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Try LiveMocha. Many language schools also offer Skype lessons for reasonable cost. I utilized Skype lessons before going to Guatemala for Spanish classes last year.
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I did a quick search and first hit was this school that mentions Skype classes on it's front page.
"Please", "thank you" and "good day" go a long way too. I surprised a lot of English speaking Greeks when I said thank you in Greek this past fall. |
Crash course in learning a new language
I hired a private tutor for two hours per week for Chinese before a trip to Beijing. That way I could tailor the content to the kinds of things I felt I would need. It's a bit more pricey but I was very happy with the results. We worked for 2 months twice a week or an hour each time.
Finding a tutor may be more of s challenge for Greek than was Chinese but depending on where you are, you may be able to find a reasonably qualified teacher. |
Originally Posted by 6P&E
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I hired a private tutor for two hours per week for Chinese before a trip to Beijing. That way I could tailor the content to the kinds of things I felt I would need. It's a bit more pricey but I was very happy with the results. We worked for 2 months twice a week or an hour each time.
Finding a tutor may be more of s challenge for Greek than was Chinese but depending on where you are, you may be able to find a reasonably qualified teacher. |
Go to the nearest library and check out their selection of language-learning books? They might even be able to bring something extra in for you. That's what I did to learn basic Hungarian before leaving for Budapest (talk about a language where it's hard to find a tutor). Don't remember the name of the book I ended up with -- it wasn't a well-known brand -- but it did wonders for helping me through my first few weeks in Hungary.
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I used Pimsleur (the short conversational one, a half-dozen CDs, maybe a dozen or so half-hour lessons) for a business trip to Athens a few years ago. I just wanted the basics for getting around town. Was fine for that purpose.
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The biggest thing you can do is to learn the Greek alphabet, as you can then figure out a lot of signage and print due to similarities of roots with English. I found that after a few days my brain was doing this fairly automatically, and things made a lot more sense.
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Originally Posted by Doc Savage
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The biggest thing you can do is to learn the Greek alphabet, as you can then figure out a lot of signage and print due to similarities of roots with English. I found that after a few days my brain was doing this fairly automatically, and things made a lot more sense.
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Rosetta Stone is useless - pictures of objects without any grammatical or sentence structure with context won't help you...it's basically a dictionary with pictures.
Pimsleur is old school but works for some. If you have two months to invest and can do skype classes 2-3 times a week, find a teacher who is knowledgable with and can effectively teach using TPRS and CI (Teaching Proficiency Through Storytelling and Comprehensible Input). Here are a couple links to get you started, and this method is head and shoulders better, faster and easier than any other language learning method on the planet - provided the teacher knows what they're doing and you're putting in the time to practice. There are no short-cuts for memorizing vocabulary, so while TPRS will help, keep flash cards for the trickier words that don't sink in right away. http://sxole.com/video/learn-greek-via-storytelling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4x11rJ54TQ |
Shaner - I was in Greece - once! I didn't really have an issue with having people understand me - but many Greeks do speak some Italian - as do I. Sign language helps.
Learning the Greek alphabet might help. The problem though will be when you say something in Greek and do not understand the reply. Idiom is an issue. I also cannot speak dialect. I was taught some Italian by a woman who moved to Toronto from Milan who did not speak dialect. I had no idea what my Italian hairdresser was saying to me when he spoke in his native dialect. If you can lay your hands on a basic textbook that should help you. You will see many people who appear to be English or Irish - but they cannot speak a word of English! We ate where the Italians ate - and just ordered what they did. |
I don't know if Greek is an option, but I'm using the free Duolingo app to learn Irish and brush up on my French and Spanish, and I highly recommend Duolingo.
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
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Rosetta Stone is useless - pictures of objects without any grammatical or sentence structure with context won't help you...it's basically a dictionary with pictures.
Pimsleur is old school but works for some. If you have two months to invest and can do skype classes 2-3 times a week, find a teacher who is knowledgable with and can effectively teach using TPRS and CI (Teaching Proficiency Through Storytelling and Comprehensible Input). Here are a couple links to get you started, and this method is head and shoulders better, faster and easier than any other language learning method on the planet - provided the teacher knows what they're doing and you're putting in the time to practice. There are no short-cuts for memorizing vocabulary, so while TPRS will help, keep flash cards for the trickier words that don't sink in right away. http://sxole.com/video/learn-greek-via-storytelling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4x11rJ54TQ |
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