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lhrsfo Jan 31, 2015 8:03 am


Originally Posted by Gamecock (Post 24267039)
As long as you don't obese it and walk away multiple times in the course of a year.

Unlikely to be too obese if you walk multiple times:D

CPRich Jan 31, 2015 8:34 am

To the original question as why this is the case - to the airline, they are selling two separate products. You can fly to city A or you can fly to city B.

Each has it's own unique market, competitors, supply, demand, etc., which drive the pricing. How you get there isn't relevant. Perhaps there are competitors to city B, driving down the price, but not to city A. So the airline can charge a higher price tocity A, but needs to be competitive to B.

The fact that the flight to B has to go through A is irrelevant from a pricing standpoint, because it's just an artifact of the flight routes. You're not allowed to get off in A on a ticket to B (which is what you are proposing), so that's not a factor.


Originally Posted by GB (Post 24266353)
Just walk out. Nobody will check or care. United will not charge you for anything.

Please don't spread false information


Originally Posted by dcpatti (Post 16631805)
It was at the B city when the passenger had made a habit of booking A-B-C and throwing away the B-C segment. They gave him the choice: pay the fare difference and the backlog of debit memos, or continue on to city C and find your own way home.


Originally Posted by samgvb (Post 16630658)
A guy in the office was sued for the difference.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...-vs-497-a.html

OP, as generally noted here, you'll likely get away with it, But it is against the terms of the tickets and airlines do care and have taken action. And very few of the anecfotal situations provided involve international travel and customs, which introduce an additional level of risk. Just know the possibilities when deciding on what to do.

84fiero Jan 31, 2015 9:32 am


Originally Posted by CheapoYromantico (Post 24265999)

3. If I check baggage, but never get on that final leg, will I be able to pick it up in Monterey? Or, will I need to get it through customs at SFO, anyway? Then, I could just take it home from there.

Where is the inbound flight to SFO coming from? If it's directly from international you could keep your bag after clearing customs as noted upthread. However you will clear US Customs in whatever US airport you first land at from overseas. So if land in some other US airport and then go to SFO, that won't be an option.

A tip for future posting on here, it would help to give a brief but more descriptive title to your post, which may lead more members to read it if they know generally what the post is about.


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 24267268)
To the original question as why this is the case - to the airline, they are selling two separate products. You can fly to city A or you can fly to city B.

Each has it's own unique market, competitors, supply, demand, etc., which drive the pricing. How you get there isn't relevant. Perhaps there are competitors to city B, driving down the price, but not to city A. So the airline can charge a higher price tocity A, but needs to be competitive to B.

The fact that the flight to B has to go through A is irrelevant from a pricing standpoint, because it's just an artifact of the flight routes. You're not allowed to get off in A on a ticket to B (which is what you are proposing), so that's not a factor.


Please don't spread false information



http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...-vs-497-a.html

OP, as generally noted here, you'll likely get away with it, But it is against the terms of the tickets and airlines do care and have taken action. And very few of the anecfotal situations provided involve international travel and customs, which introduce an additional level of risk. Just know the possibilities when deciding on what to do.

^ Good summary as always.

One other practical risk to the practice is if during IRROPS (bad weather, cancelations, etc) the airline could re-route the passenger through some other connecting city to the final destination, messing up the plan to get off early at the original connecting city. Not sure if this is a very likely risk with the OP given the more limited connecting services to MRY, but worth noting in general.

Gamecock Jan 31, 2015 2:28 pm


Originally Posted by lhrsfo (Post 24267158)

Originally Posted by Gamecock (Post 24267039)
As long as you don't obese it and walk away multiple times in the course of a year.

Unlikely to be too obese if you walk multiple times:D

Dang tiny screen on my Droid. ;-)

CheapoYromantico Jan 31, 2015 2:45 pm

Thanks, everybody! Wow, you folks get up early! I posted around 11pm and it's not even 9am here in the Bay Area, and I have 18 replies. Passionate about flying, you are!

The flight into SFO is from San Salvador, so there would be customs at SFO. Therefore, I would have my baggage in hand. This is booking through Expedia or Orbitz, so United would not have my credit card info....

GB Jan 31, 2015 3:38 pm


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 24267268)
To the original question as why this is the case - to the airline, they are selling two separate products. You can fly to city A or you can fly to city B.

Each has it's own unique market, competitors, supply, demand, etc., which drive the pricing. How you get there isn't relevant. Perhaps there are competitors to city B, driving down the price, but not to city A. So the airline can charge a higher price tocity A, but needs to be competitive to B.

The fact that the flight to B has to go through A is irrelevant from a pricing standpoint, because it's just an artifact of the flight routes. You're not allowed to get off in A on a ticket to B (which is what you are proposing), so that's not a factor.


Please don't spread false information



http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...-vs-497-a.html

OP, as generally noted here, you'll likely get away with it, But it is against the terms of the tickets and airlines do care and have taken action. And very few of the anecfotal situations provided involve international travel and customs, which introduce an additional level of risk. Just know the possibilities when deciding on what to do.

Actually, many of us have done exactly this many times. There is nobody in baggage claim to stop you taking your own bags out of the airport for eight hours and unless you make a regular habit of doing this on the same airline over and over again, there is no risk of United charging you back.

NewbieRunner Jan 31, 2015 4:27 pm


Originally Posted by CheapoYromantico (Post 24268796)
Thanks, everybody! Wow, you folks get up early! I posted around 11pm and it's not even 9am here in the Bay Area, and I have 18 replies.

Some of us live in different time zones. ;)

LondonElite Jan 31, 2015 4:30 pm


Originally Posted by Tchiowa (Post 24266252)
United could charge your CC the higher price if you do that. Plus when you clear Customs in SFO if they see your bags tagged for Monterrey but you head out the door with your bags they will see something is up and stop you.


Originally Posted by Tchiowa (Post 24266604)
If your bag is tagged for a connection but you turn right, you will raise suspicion and they will stop you.

None of these things will happen.

jackohara Jan 31, 2015 6:44 pm


Originally Posted by CheapoYromantico (Post 24265999)
Newbie, here. This has probably been addressed many times but I have no idea how to search this topic:

I want to fly from Rio (GIG) to the San Francisco, one way. Most flights have 2-3 stops and are in the $1000-$1100 range.

However, when I click on "include other airports" one option comes up with 4 stops for just $630. On Avianca. Under flight details, the final stop is SFO, with an 8 hour layover there, then a 37 minute hop to Monterey on United (a 2 hour drive past SFO). If I leave that option off, with SFO as the final destination, it comes up with the same flights (minus the hop to Monterey) at $1035!

1. Can someone please explain this craziness to me?

2. What happens if I take the 4 stop option, but don't take the final leg?

3. If I check baggage, but never get on that final leg, will I be able to pick it up in Monterey? Or, will I need to get it through customs at SFO, anyway? Then, I could just take it home from there.

Seeking your great wisdom...

Dave


You may want to read this issue too that happened with another customer who purchased a ticket on an airline but was not shown details of stop over.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/india...-printout.html

Doc Savage Jan 31, 2015 9:19 pm


Originally Posted by CheapoYromantico (Post 24268796)
Thanks, everybody! Wow, you folks get up early! I posted around 11pm and it's not even 9am here in the Bay Area, and I have 18 replies. Passionate about flying, you are!

The flight into SFO is from San Salvador, so there would be customs at SFO. Therefore, I would have my baggage in hand. This is booking through Expedia or Orbitz, so United would not have my credit card info....

OP, you will be fine.

Enjoy your trip to GIG.

Jaimito Cartero Jan 31, 2015 10:57 pm


Originally Posted by Doc Savage (Post 24270104)
OP, you will be fine.

Enjoy your trip to GIG.

Actually, it's a trip FROM GIG. Although if he's currently in SFO, he will have to get there in some fashion. :)

Doc Savage Jan 31, 2015 11:28 pm


Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero (Post 24270371)
Actually, it's a trip FROM GIG. Although if he's currently in SFO, he will have to get there in some fashion. :)

And they said Sherlock Holmes was gone....:D

nux Feb 1, 2015 3:38 am


Originally Posted by jackohara (Post 24269642)
You may want to read this issue too that happened with another customer who purchased a ticket on an airline but was not shown details of stop over.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/india...-printout.html

Were you the customer? :confused:

LondonElite Feb 1, 2015 4:35 am

What Happens If...
 
It was a 'common' customer. ;)

Alan in CBR Feb 1, 2015 6:24 pm


Originally Posted by jackohara (Post 24269642)
You may want to read this issue too that happened with another customer who purchased a ticket on an airline but was not shown details of stop over.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/india...-printout.html

In what way is the issue (or non-issue) in that thread even remotely related to the issue in this thread?


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