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New Air Force One?
President Obama landed at PVD yesterday evening in a non-747, but with the standard AF1 livery. I understand AF1 is the code-name whenever the President in on-board AF equipment but has there been a standard rotation out of 747?
http://www.providencejournal.com/top...-force-one.ece |
That is a Boeing C-32 (757 variant). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_C-32
I think one of the airports he visited cannot handle a VC-25 (747) of which there are two that typically serve as AF1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_VC-25 See also: http://time.com/3550255/obama-campai...the-spotlight/ |
When traveling domestically, the president often uses the C-32 (757) or one of the helicopters. The 747 is a bit overkill for short haul travel.
Theoretically any aircraft he is on is Air Force One, but in practice they dedicate specific equipment just to his (or her) use. any idea why he was in Providence? |
Originally Posted by Cloudship
(Post 23770257)
When traveling domestically, the president often uses the C-32 (757) or one of the helicopters. The 747 is a bit overkill for short haul travel.
Theoretically any aircraft he is on is Air Force One, but in practice they dedicate specific equipment just to his (or her) use. any idea why he was in Providence? The C-32 doesn't have the full range of equipment, accessories, and other things the VC-25 does, making it less than ideal for transport of the President. and is only sparingly used for such. The C-32 is primarily used by the Vice President, Secretary of State, and on occasion others. Preliminary plans are in work for a replacement to the VC-25. The call sign Air Force One isn't just theoretical, it is standard practice that any US Air Force aircraft carrying him operates under than call sign while the President is onboard. |
Originally Posted by 84fiero
(Post 23770711)
The call sign Air Force One isn't just theoretical, it is standard practice that any US Air Force aircraft carrying him operates under than call sign while the President is onboard.
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Originally Posted by 84fiero
(Post 23770711)
Preliminary plans are in work for a replacement to the VC-25.
. I doubt it will be the A380. Also doubt that it will be a 777. |
Originally Posted by Cloudship
(Post 23770257)
When traveling domestically, the president often uses the C-32 (757) or one of the helicopters. The 747 is a bit overkill for short haul travel.
Theoretically any aircraft he is on is Air Force One, but in practice they dedicate specific equipment just to his (or her) use. any idea why he was in Providence? |
Originally Posted by Tchiowa
(Post 23771356)
Not theoretically. Officially. All the time.
Also there is also "Navy One" which covers Navy fixed-wing planes being used to transport the President. Perhaps you remember Navy One landing with GW Bush on the USS Abraham Lincoln? Navy One isn't Air Force One. "Mission accomplished." ;) |
Originally Posted by Box5:23771275
Originally Posted by 84fiero
(Post 23770711)
Preliminary plans are in work for a replacement to the VC-25.
. I doubt it will be the A380. Also doubt that it will be a 777. |
New Air Force One?
When one of the presidents flew on a commercial flight (I believe from IAD to LAX) on United DC-8. Did they change callsign to AF1?
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New Air Force One?
Just checked it. It was Nixon back in 1972. Flew United DC-10 from IAD to LAX. The flight became Executive One.
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Originally Posted by bwiadca
(Post 23771662)
When one of the presidents flew on a commercial flight (I believe from IAD to LAX) on United DC-8. Did they change callsign to AF1?
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Originally Posted by Box5
(Post 23771275)
747-8?
I doubt it will be the A380. Also doubt that it will be a 777.
Originally Posted by dcpdxtrans
(Post 23771429)
+1 that most likely the 800 series will win out but I've heard the 777 is a possibility. Personally I just don't see how.
I also remember reading sometime ago (but i'm not able to find the source...) that Boeing will push 747-800 production up to fulfill this bid, after it they will probably pull the plug at the 747 line. |
Originally Posted by HMO
(Post 23928735)
I also remember reading sometime ago (but i'm not able to find the source...) that Boeing will push 747-800 production up to fulfill this bid, after it they will probably pull the plug at the 747 line.
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Originally Posted by BearX220
(Post 23929666)
Obsolete or not given ETOPS advances since the 1980s, the Secret Service has a bias toward four-engine solutions for long-haul presidential work.
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