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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 23715277)
Right now? Also, in the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s and 2010s. ;)
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:rolleyes:
Also in the 1960s and before. But a FFP before the 1970s? Don't recall that, even as frequent buyer/customer programs have been around long before that -- along with concerns about frequent buyer/customer programs opersting like Ponzi-schemes or otherwise having sustainability concerns. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 23712759)
I game this game pretty well and better than most; and yet I don't fear that every kind of disclosure would equally undermine (if undermine at all) my ability to game this game as every other kind of disclosure requirement may.
Even if we stop short of taxation of miles (which is where this discussion often leads), I think it could lead to "flatter" programs where 1 mile translates to a fixed discount against future travel. (In other words, the Southwest program.) All done with good intentions on the part of those seeking change, but change that doesn't necessarily benefit those who already know and play today's programs very well. Fully recognize that this isn't the only possible outcome...it's just one outcome that gives me pause whenever we have a thread about expanding oversight, often done with the thought that fliers should legally "own" their miles.
Originally Posted by Venabili
(Post 23712771)
You do not provide a number, you do not get miles. What's the problem?
If they want to enroll you every time to give you miles, just forget for the the number and you are all set. Noone is forced to get or use miles - you can simply fly and not care about the FFPs...
Originally Posted by pragakhan
(Post 23713186)
I think he is saying there are unpublished fares that are cheaper that do not provide FF benefits. If they offered these fares to the public, Kettle Jim and Jane might buy them as might businesses start to require you buy them. Thus the FF+ fares become more expensive because the once a year flyers aren't helping support it. Which is why, I think more businesses don't offer sans-benefit pricing... It hurts their programs..
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 23715494)
:rolleyes:
Also in the 1960s and before. But a FFP before the 1970s? Don't recall that, even as frequent buyer/customer programs have been around long before that -- along with concerns about frequent buyer/customer programs opersting like Ponzi-schemes or otherwise having sustainability concerns. |
I think this article makes a valid point. From the perspective of the majority of the public, frequent flier programs do more harm than good. Essentially, most people pay a little more so that a few people can get extra benefits. Of course, most of us are in the latter group :)
Norway banned frequent flier programs several years ago, and by some accounts fares have gone down. It would be interesting to see what comes of this. I don't see any bans or major regulations in free-market-crazy America, but perhaps there will be disclosure requirements similar to a Schumer Box. |
Originally Posted by cbn42
(Post 23720916)
I think this article makes a valid point. From the perspective of the majority of the public, frequent flier programs do more harm than good. Essentially, most people pay a little more so that a few people can get extra benefits. Of course, most of us are in the latter group :)
Norway banned frequent flier programs several years ago, and by some accounts fares have gone down. It would be interesting to see what comes of this. I don't see any bans or major regulations in free-market-crazy America, but perhaps there will be disclosure requirements similar to a Schumer Box. |
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