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84fiero Sep 15, 2014 9:41 am


Originally Posted by Modernity (Post 23525829)
Since this seems an active topic today, I'd like to ask my own question.

Can one drop a middle leg if its on a different carrier?

For example, outbound is A->B on Carrier 1, B->C on Carrier 2, Return is C->D on Carrier 3, and D->A on Carrier 1.

If I wanted to drop C->D and drive C->D instead, can I do that without having D->A dropped?

I've done this before in Europe on a single carrier. I flew LH out to Frankfurt, took a connection to Vienna, but instead of connecting back for the return, flew from Prague instead.

This was a few years ago so I don't know if the rules are the same, and how they work with multiple airlines.

Should I just call the carriers and ask?

Is this all on one ticket number? Maybe those carriers' systems didn't interface so they weren't aware of the skipped segment (just guessing).

I wouldn't count on it working in all, or most, instances.


Originally Posted by Efrem (Post 23527475)
Here's a not-entirely-hypothetical:

Someone is traveling to China for two weeks with spouse. For a bunch of reasons, the travel dates are fixed with zero wiggle room.

Booking 11 months out, said person got F award tickets in the first low-mileage-needed allocation for the return flight. However, they were not available for the outbound flight. Two one-way award tickets in F or J that bypass capacity controls add up to a whole lot of miles.

Paid one-way tickets on the same airline are fairly expensive. However, paid round trips are much less so. Should this person:

1. Suck it up and buy one-way outbound tickets for what they cost.

2. Buy a round trip with return before the award return flight, so they could (in theory) get back to China a second time to use the reward ticket. Then toss the second half of the round trip.

3. Buy a round trip with return after the award return flight, so the fact that they tossed the second half of the round trip will not be known until they have returned.

4. Buy a round trip on a different airline and toss the second half. This is not as desirable for schedule and FF credit reasons, but feasible if options (2) and (3) are risky.

5. Other?

What does the collective FT wisdom suggest?

I'm assuming the roundtrip on that airline is within your budget since you're considering buying it. If so, I'd just buy the paid RT ticket and use only that for this trip, personally. And save your miles for another time altogether (assuming the miles redeposit fee isn't too onerous).

Steven Avery Sep 15, 2014 9:55 am


Originally Posted by 84fiero (Post 23524695)
What do you mean by "miss the Delta flight"? Are you picking up a separately-ticketed flight in Chicago to somewhere else on Delta?

Yes, a while back when I thought I would take Amtrak I bought a cheapo Chicago-->Asheville with Delta points. I'm hoping not to lose that, 15,000 points, and the SW times very well (better than Spirit) for that today.

Steven

chgoeditor Sep 15, 2014 11:44 am


Originally Posted by aisleorwindow (Post 23525820)
I disagree. I think it makes perfect sense to notify the airline after you fly the first leg. That way they can offload you from the flight before you become a no-show. Not to mention, it's just courteous.

Except that you're violating the CoC with most airlines and running the risk that the airline will ding you for the higher airfare.

nrr Sep 15, 2014 6:16 pm

If the OP became ill (possibly with something contagious) and couldn't take the 2nd leg, would the airline really want him on the plane. If OP paid with cash, the airline (except through litigation) would have great difficulty collecting the "extra" fee.

milepig Sep 16, 2014 10:58 am


Originally Posted by nrr (Post 23531691)
...If OP paid with cash, the airline (except through litigation) would have great difficulty collecting the "extra" fee.

As do what, 0000.1% of pax?

nrr Sep 17, 2014 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by milepig (Post 23535117)
As do what, 0000.1% of pax?

"cash" would include: (1)pre-paid "credit card", (2)Western Union, (3)Pay Pal increasing the number to 0000.2%:rolleyes:...in any event it is extremely unlikely that an airline would try to collect, no matter how one paid!

Modernity Oct 22, 2014 10:40 am


Originally Posted by 84fiero (Post 23528913)
Is this all on one ticket number? Maybe those carriers' systems didn't interface so they weren't aware of the skipped segment (just guessing).

I wouldn't count on it working in all, or most, instances.

One ticket number, separate airline confirmation codes. Itinerary shows up on websites for carriers A and C websites, segments 1,3,4. Seems to be ticketed under stock for carrier C, segment 3. Is it bad if that's the one I want to skip? I would check in online for segment 4 prior to segment 3 even taking off...


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