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Thanks again for answering my questions, everyone. I have enjoyed reading all the comments and am now totally de-stressed (instead of distressed) about this flight. I got a chuckle from 84fiero's Lindbergh photo and am comforted that there is someone who actually has the username ILUV767. I'm still bummed that my eastbound flight is on AA and not BA, especially since I got burned on the airfare from booking so late, but I guess in the big picture it's all good.
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Originally Posted by LAXative
(Post 23196411)
THIS (A318) is "a lot smaller..."
http://www.jaunted.com/files/98243/BAA380A318SNN.jpg Both of these planes make it across the Atlantic just fine. For the OP, the 767 is MUCH bigger than the one on the right... Great pic, though. Thanks for sharing! |
767's
The BA001 and 003 flights LCY-JFK ALWAYS stop in SNN as the runway at LCY is too short for takeoff with a full tank. This has the added benefit of US preclearance there so arrival at JFK is at a domestic gate.
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I had also though that the LCY->JFK flight made the technical/preclearance stop at SNN for fuel loading limits, but I also remember reading somewhere that there was another issue. LCY isn't a base for BA mainline, so the pilots actually report to work at LHR or LGW due to union rules and are shuttled to LCY, so they being their duty day too early to fly all the way to JFK.
Can anyone who's been on this flight confirm that there is a crew cockpit crew change at SNN? |
Originally Posted by SEA-Flyer
(Post 23193527)
The 767 is an older plane than the 777. But it has an excellent safety record.
Prior to the 767, most aircraft that flew transatlantic were four engined. The 767 revolutionized long range twin engine operation, paving the way for later aircraft such as the A330, 777, 787. The 767-300ER has enough range to do west coast of the US to Europe, so flying it across the Atlantic isn't an issue. Obviously, things vary based on how airlines decide on how to outfit the cabin, but I think that generally 767 is the comfiest airplane in economy class, which is a 2-3-2 seat arrangement - 85% of the seats are either aisle or window. |
Originally Posted by enviroian
(Post 23211254)
Didn't the A300 do this first or am I mistaken?
Not sure to which the previous poster was referring to. |
Originally Posted by tireman77
(Post 23198662)
Actually, the one on the right often has to make a technical stop at SNN when going westbound.
For the OP, the 767 is MUCH bigger than the one on the right... Great pic, though. Thanks for sharing! It's not really a technical stop. |
Originally Posted by Cassie55
(Post 23211451)
The stop in SNN is because the runway at LCY is too short to fully load the aircraft with fuel.
It's not really a technical stop. (I know the passengers get off, go through pre-clearance then get back on, but I believe passengers do not get off an SNN or board at SNN, so the do not load of offload passengers) |
Originally Posted by bhomburg
(Post 23194495)
American's 767-300s have been crossing the Atlantic for about 25 years now without one single accident so far.
Why do I always get the broken seat and IFE tablet on AA 767's?! :confused: Mind you, it's a consistent earner on points compensation as a result. I think I'm averaging ~10k points on each flight in compensation for something that isn't working on the sodding things. :-/ |
Originally Posted by enviroian
(Post 23211254)
Didn't the A300 do this first or am I mistaken?
Originally Posted by tireman77
(Post 23211384)
The A300 was the first twin engined wide body. I believe the 767 was the first plane to be ETOPS certified.
Not sure to which the previous poster was referring to. The A300 was the first ETOPS aircraft, but it was only certified for either 60 or 90 minutes(I can't remember which), which isn't useful. The A300 was never a significant trans-atlantic aircraft, but did become popular within Asia. The 767 was first to be certified for 120mins ETOPS, which is what is necessary for viable trans-atlantic service. Later, 120+15% (138) was added to help handle the situation where diversion airports were closed due to weather. A map of 60, 90, 120, and 138 minute ETOPS |
Just to follow up from my original post: I completed my trip across the pond to Ireland on a 763 and back on a 747, safely and with no anxiety! Thanks again for everyone's reassurance! :)
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Originally Posted by travelsmitty
(Post 23315974)
Just to follow up from my original post: I completed my trip across the pond to Ireland on a 763 and back on a 747, safely and with no anxiety! Thanks again for everyone's reassurance! :)
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It seems I'm a little late, but this picture shows the sizes of some cargo aircrafts. The commercial versions have the same length. You can the 767 has a decent size:
http://www.boeingcapital.com/p2p/arc..._Full_Line.jpg |
Originally Posted by travelsmitty
(Post 23315974)
Just to follow up from my original post: I completed my trip across the pond to Ireland on a 763 and back on a 747, safely and with no anxiety! Thanks again for everyone's reassurance! :)
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Originally Posted by Flinders
(Post 23196852)
I hadn't seen this photo before, but I love it! :D
Originally Posted by LAXative
(Post 23196411)
back in 1982 or thereabouts, several of my co-workers started a caption contest for a similar photo that appeared on the cover of the internal Boeing phone book; it was a nose-on shot of a 747 and 737, facing in the same direction the two winners were "Not tonight, dear, I have a headache" and "Daddy, when I grow up can I have four engines too?" |
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