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markraby Apr 19, 2014 2:55 pm

My only pet peeve -- leering over to look out "my" window
 
I've never been one to complain about the typical airplane annoyances. Crying babies -- that's what noise canceling headphones are for. Obese passengers -- I used to be one so I can sympathize. People who take forever to load/unload overhead bins. Whatever. They're not annoying you on purpose.

But the one thing that has always driven me crazy, as happened today, is when I'm at a window seat and other passengers feel the need to constantly lean into my personal space to look out the window.

Today was especially bad. I was on an ERJ, with the 1x2 configuration. I was in the lone seat, and a mother/daughter were seated in the double seats on the other side. The mom was seated in the aisle and was probably in her mid 50s. Not only did she constantly turn her head to look out the window on my side, she would make a production out of it. She'd grab the seat in front of her and lean over across the aisle to look out the window, as though I wasn't even there. The first time she did it I took off my headphones because I thought for sure she was trying to get my attention for something. But nope; just wanted to look out the window.

She must have done this every 5 minues throughout the flight. Meanwhile the perfectly good window next to her daughter went almost completely ignored.

Am I overreacting? I've never really gotten angry at another passenger just for being a novice and obviously not understanding some of the more nuanced flying etiquette. But this lady really took the cake in my mind. How you can be a middle aged adult with a family and not understand that such behavior would be annoying is simply beyond me. If I was looking out the window myself, or sleeping, or going to the lavatory, then please, look out of the window all you want. Want to glance out? Sure, but don't invade my space. But when I'm facing forward and you practically make eye contact with me to look out of the window, when you purposefully didn't book a window seat, I think that's rude.

Anyway, I've never done a FT rant about another passenger before, so there you go.

danville 1K Apr 19, 2014 2:57 pm

You don't own the window, you're just occupying the seat next to it. Chill out.

markraby Apr 19, 2014 3:00 pm

Someone didn't read my post... :-/

CKinMD Apr 19, 2014 3:01 pm

There's a great existing thread that this can be moved to. Wanna guess which one?

mgcsinc Apr 19, 2014 3:02 pm

It's a complicated piece of etiquette, and one I continue to struggle with as someone who's often in the aisle but likes to look and see what's going on outside. It sounds like you're maybe a bit more sensitive about it than most, but it's a fair thing to be annoyed about.

markraby Apr 19, 2014 3:04 pm

Lmao. Okay, got it. I guess I did overreact. Like I said, I never get angry at passengers for this kind of stuff. It just seemed more over the top than usual. Maybe I'm just having a bad day. Whatever

mgcsinc Apr 19, 2014 3:10 pm


Originally Posted by markraby (Post 22729744)
Lmao. Okay, got it. I guess I did overreact. Like I said, I never get angry at passengers for this kind of stuff. It just seemed more over the top than usual. Maybe I'm just having a bad day. Whatever

I think maybe you took my post differently from how I intended it... :confused:

PDXPremier Apr 19, 2014 3:12 pm


Originally Posted by mgcsinc (Post 22729732)
It's a complicated piece of etiquette, and one I continue to struggle with as someone who's often in the aisle but likes to look and see what's going on outside. It sounds like you're maybe a bit more sensitive about it than most, but it's a fair thing to be annoyed about.

I'm the same way...I love looking out the window and use to be a window seat guy 100% but then I developed some sort of weird "bathroom anxiety" where the simple knowledge that I couldn't use the bathroom when I wanted to would somehow make me HAVE to go and I don't need that stress in my life so I became an aisle guy and actually like the more open feeling (ie, less claustrophobic) it provides but I do miss the views so I still look out the window without being annoying :)

danville 1K Apr 19, 2014 3:15 pm


Originally Posted by markraby (Post 22729723)
Someone didn't read my post... :-/

Maybe she was looking for some landmark on your side of the airplane...

bmwe92fan Apr 19, 2014 3:15 pm


Originally Posted by CKinMD (Post 22729729)
There's a great existing thread that this can be moved to. Wanna guess which one?

LOL Nice...

markraby Apr 19, 2014 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by mgcsinc (Post 22729756)
I think maybe you took my post differently from how I intended it... :confused:

Actually that was in response to CKinMD. I appreciated your reply. And clearly I know it is not my window (hence why "my" is in quotation marks). I've flown hundreds of times and never cared when someone glances outside. But when other people glare at you and put their head in front of your line of vision? Every 5 minutes? I guess maybe some people think that's totally cool. I don't get it

mgcsinc Apr 19, 2014 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by PDXPremier (Post 22729761)
I'm the same way...I love looking out the window and use to be a window seat guy 100% but then I developed some sort of weird "bathroom anxiety" where the simple knowledge that I couldn't use the bathroom when I wanted to would somehow make me HAVE to go and I don't need that stress in my life so I became an aisle guy and actually like the more open feeling (ie, less claustrophobic) it provides but I do miss the views so I still look out the window without being annoying :)

I'm looking forward to the future with no windows where the entire wall is a giant screen or whatever.

Doc Savage Apr 19, 2014 3:16 pm

She sounds annoying, but it doesn't sound like she was actually in your space, just in the aisle some.


Likely a very infrequent flyer who was excited by the view.

You could have just pulled down the shade.:D

Kacee Apr 19, 2014 3:31 pm


Originally Posted by Doc Savage (Post 22729780)

You could have just pulled down the shade.:D

I had a huge altercation once with a guy who insisted I open the shade while we were on the ground. (They were all closed when we boarded b/c it was bright sun and something like 80 degrees outside.)

There are some really strange and obnoxious people out there.

Doc Savage Apr 19, 2014 3:35 pm


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 22729816)
There are some really strange and obnoxious people out there.

True dat. I probably would have been a little annoyed by this pax, too. Imagine how the person in front of her whose seat back she repeatedly pulled must have felt.:rolleyes:


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