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Letitride3c Feb 6, 2014 8:11 pm


Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero (Post 22298263)
Do they hold up score cards?

American Judge: 9
German Judge: 8
Bulgarian Judge: 6 (Yelling, you call that a plunge drop!)

A spectator's sports now take on new meanings - center & front row seating. :D

N95 face masks & ear plugs available too ? Yikes!

djk7 Feb 6, 2014 9:24 pm


Originally Posted by Letitride3c (Post 22301949)
A spectator's sports now take on new meanings - center & front row seating. :D

N95 face masks & ear plugs available too ? Yikes!

You can hardly evaluate the sport properly wearing that kind of gear!

Letitride3c Feb 6, 2014 10:19 pm


Originally Posted by djk7 (Post 22302265)
You can hardly evaluate the sport properly wearing that kind of gear!

That's true - it does called for Hazmat Level C protection, or at least Level D .... as for hosing it down, the colored water is going to pose a different challenge :rolleyes:

makos Feb 7, 2014 3:47 am

I have managed to clog US toilets countless time:) Epsecially the older style where the water has no pressure at all and just drain down real slowly.

But who needs paper when you have somethiing like this:

http://simplyember.com/wp-content/up...neseToilet.jpg

Washes and dries it :)

Thugh this one is also quite interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKkryfdtMNQ

callum9999 Feb 7, 2014 4:10 am


Originally Posted by P50sundevil (Post 22297069)
They should really just quit giving the Olympics to places that don't already have a capable infrastructure. It isn't feasible to construct an entire city and the appropriate infrastructure, transport, venues, and so on, for a two-week sporting event. They're spending billions constructing something which will never receive that sort of use again. Brazil will have all of the same problems, added with the fact that they're even more incompetent. Some of the FIFA venues for this summer are completely screwed (one likely unable to complete in time), they botched their transport upgrades and will be using tents instead of terminals (as promised), one key rail line hasn't even been started, and there's already a massive shortage of acceptable hotels...how are they supposed to run an Olympics?

The IOC should only consider applicant cities with appropriate infrastructure already in place, especially with a sufficient number of hotel rooms already built. Building loads of new hotels that won't be used again is ridiculous. Sure, there can be leeway given when improvements or upgrades need to be made, but as in the case of Sochi where nearly all of the infrastructure had to be created for these games, it becomes far too difficult to complete on-time and becomes unsustainable when they'll be left to rot after the events.

But none of this will happen, because the IOC doesn't care when countries spend more and more to one-up the last, not to mention the IOC is as corrupt as the next couple of Olympics hosts. $50 billion to host a two-week event is shameful in countries like Russia or Brazil with such high poverty levels. It seems like the IOC thinks they're doing them a favor as charity cases, and they're generating investment in the infrastructure to improve the lives of the locals. Bollocks. Sochi is Putin's Berchdesgaden (where Eagle's Nest is) and the money spent on these improvements will not improve the lives of 99.7% of Russians -- the 0.3% being those who took their share of bribes/siphoned money from the budget, or the few people who happen to live in the area who aren't confined to Dagestan.

But I digress...

While I agree this has been a PR disaster for Russia, I completely disagree that from now on it should only be in places that can already host it. So that's half a dozen locations for eternity then (assuming they even want to host the games so regularly)?

What people seem to forget is that this is all about the SPORT. While these are certainly major stuff-ups, the Olympics will go ahead and it will work out perfectly fine. There were few mistakes on this scale but the run-up to London 2012 was full of people (even Mitt Romney!) denigrating it and saying it's going to fail etc. because of various issues. It is now widely acknowledged to be one of the best Olympic games of the modern era.

I don't know if it's because it's Russia, or you're all just natural pessimists, but I see no reason why the games can't still turn out to be a success. Ditto with the Brazilian World Cup.

nrr Feb 7, 2014 4:12 am

If you throw used toilet paper in "bins" (instead of in the toilet), if the "bins" aren't emptied often, wouldn't the stench be annoying after a while?

orthar Feb 7, 2014 7:38 am


Originally Posted by callum9999 (Post 22303422)
While I agree this has been a PR disaster for Russia, I completely disagree that from now on it should only be in places that can already host it. So that's half a dozen locations for eternity then (assuming they even want to host the games so regularly)?

What people seem to forget is that this is all about the SPORT. While these are certainly major stuff-ups, the Olympics will go ahead and it will work out perfectly fine. There were few mistakes on this scale but the run-up to London 2012 was full of people (even Mitt Romney!) denigrating it and saying it's going to fail etc. because of various issues. It is now widely acknowledged to be one of the best Olympic games of the modern era.

I don't know if it's because it's Russia, or you're all just natural pessimists, but I see no reason why the games can't still turn out to be a success
. Ditto with the Brazilian World Cup.

Give. Me. A. Break.

IMO, this thread was supposed to be humorous - a focus on all the silly mistakes Russia has made while planning these Olympic games (also, what posters like to do with their toilet paper).
To suggest that this follows from some anti-Russian bias demands complete ignorance (willful or otherwise) of these games.
If they were any success, people would be going (yes, people go to Winter games too) like they did to Vancouver.
And then there's the human rights' abuses, people getting kicked out of their homes, transportation issues, etc. So far, enough to validate one's opinion that the Olympics should be constrained to appropriate venues.

GuyverII Feb 7, 2014 7:49 am


Originally Posted by orthar (Post 22304147)
Give. Me. A. Break.

IMO, this thread was supposed to be humorous - a focus on all the silly mistakes Russia has made while planning these Olympic games (also, what posters like to do with their toilet paper).
To suggest that this follows from some anti-Russian bias demands complete ignorance (willful or otherwise) of these games.
If they were any success, people would be going (yes, people go to Winter games too) like they did to Vancouver.
And then there's the human rights' abuses, people getting out of their homes, transportation issues, etc. So far, enough to validate one's opinion that the Olympics should be constrained to appropriate vanues.

Great post. I'm going to leave this here:

http://sochi.fbk.info/en/award/

callum9999 Feb 7, 2014 10:58 am


Originally Posted by orthar (Post 22304147)
Give. Me. A. Break.

IMO, this thread was supposed to be humorous - a focus on all the silly mistakes Russia has made while planning these Olympic games (also, what posters like to do with their toilet paper).
To suggest that this follows from some anti-Russian bias demands complete ignorance (willful or otherwise) of these games.
If they were any success, people would be going (yes, people go to Winter games too) like they did to Vancouver.
And then there's the human rights' abuses, people getting kicked out of their homes, transportation issues, etc. So far, enough to validate one's opinion that the Olympics should be constrained to appropriate venues.

I can't give you a break, but how about an English comprehension guide? I didn't say it was all down to an anti-Russia bias, I QUESTIONED whether SOME of it was.

None of that stuff has anything to do with the actual olympics whatsoever. Yet more damning PR for Russia yes, but how exactly is it affecting who wins the Ice Hockey or who wins the Slalom?

orthar Feb 7, 2014 11:35 am

No need to put words in my mouth while you try to insult me, I said you suggested it. Which you did.

So apparently lackluster attendance doesn't have "anything to do with the actual olympics whatsoever", a very interesting viewpoint which I'm sure the IOC doesn't share.
How about substandard facilities for the athletes, and injury-causing slopes? Is that relevant enough to 'the actual olympics'?

Ancien Maestro Feb 7, 2014 12:28 pm


Originally Posted by makos (Post 22303365)
I have managed to clog US toilets countless time:) Epsecially the older style where the water has no pressure at all and just drain down real slowly.

But who needs paper when you have somethiing like this:

http://simplyember.com/wp-content/up...neseToilet.jpg

Washes and dries it :)

Thugh this one is also quite interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKkryfdtMNQ

Looks exactly like the toilet in my suite at Grand Hyatt Kauai. It was a great feeling of clean afterwards!:)

I'll have to check for the light next time. That looks like a nice feature.

milepig Feb 7, 2014 12:42 pm


Originally Posted by makos (Post 22303365)
I have managed to clog US toilets countless time:) Epsecially the older style where the water has no pressure at all and just drain down real slowly.

But who needs paper when you have somethiing like this:

http://simplyember.com/wp-content/up...neseToilet.jpg

Washes and dries it :)

Thugh this one is also quite interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKkryfdtMNQ

Yes, but it can't hold a candle to the toilets at the Peninsula, which raise the seat automatically when you approach (and lower when you leave) and welcome you with soothing beeping noises.

CBear Feb 7, 2014 1:41 pm


Originally Posted by Flyingfox (Post 22301883)
This is not a credible statement. Sorry.

Hey, I know people that use cloth diapers. Fair enough.

They also use "family cloth" instead of toilet paper.

And reusable cloth pads for ladies.

It happens more than you think. *shudders*

Kpoxa Feb 7, 2014 3:07 pm


Originally Posted by orthar (Post 22297323)
MY personal favorite, the toiletheater:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfkW-TWIEAABoJ2.jpg

There are a lot “Sochi” photos are thrown around and many of them are fakes. This one probably has nothing to do with Sochi Olympics. See the article http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/8-vir...ies-1517429839

lili Feb 7, 2014 4:12 pm

You guys need to get out more. This one's Made in the USA. Can be yours for $7500.

http://www.kohler.com/numi/#


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