Crew Carry on luggage taking up overhead bin space.
#46
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Ft101, CaptRobPhD, WWguy, I will move your bag, if you have a problem with that call the flight attendant. Not my problem.
Comments on an anonymous forum are easy to make. As I said, only twice has someone said anything. Both times the FA removed a bag, but not mine. This is from a 'sampling' of perhaps 100 or more incidents. I am therefore providing DATA, not unsubstantiated emotional comments like 'I would dump items in the aisle'.
I would actually be interested to hear how things worked out if someone 'dumped someone's items in the aisle.'
Comments on an anonymous forum are easy to make. As I said, only twice has someone said anything. Both times the FA removed a bag, but not mine. This is from a 'sampling' of perhaps 100 or more incidents. I am therefore providing DATA, not unsubstantiated emotional comments like 'I would dump items in the aisle'.
I would actually be interested to hear how things worked out if someone 'dumped someone's items in the aisle.'
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the critical difference here is that my belief is based on actual airline policy, enforced by crew. Your belief that you're entitled to some allocation of the bin over your row is based on nothing more than your personal opinion.
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Yes, we can all tell that from your posts.
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Ft101, that FOUR people disagree with something I wrote should tell me what beyond the fact that FOUR people disagree? Four is hardly a representative number to suggest anything.
I'm not here to debate, I posted my view and my actions based on that view along with the fact that only 2 people have ever said anything. You can disagree with my viewpoint but you cannot disagree with the facts as told. It works for me and that's the end of the story.
The critical difference here cynicAAl, is that you have a 'belief' while I am providing factual data. I don't 'believe' I would move your bag and the FA would leave mine alone, I am reporting facts.
Or simply put, there may be the 'rules' but there is also what happens in reality which may or may not conform to the 'rules'. What I'm saying is what happens, not what the 'rules' say is supposed to happen. That happens in real life all the time with all kinds of rules does it not?
I do not want to argue with anyone about anything. I'm simply telling you what I do and what happens when I do. You don't have to agree with my viewpoint but you can't disagree with the facts. Can we end this now?
I'm not here to debate, I posted my view and my actions based on that view along with the fact that only 2 people have ever said anything. You can disagree with my viewpoint but you cannot disagree with the facts as told. It works for me and that's the end of the story.
The critical difference here cynicAAl, is that you have a 'belief' while I am providing factual data. I don't 'believe' I would move your bag and the FA would leave mine alone, I am reporting facts.
Or simply put, there may be the 'rules' but there is also what happens in reality which may or may not conform to the 'rules'. What I'm saying is what happens, not what the 'rules' say is supposed to happen. That happens in real life all the time with all kinds of rules does it not?
I do not want to argue with anyone about anything. I'm simply telling you what I do and what happens when I do. You don't have to agree with my viewpoint but you can't disagree with the facts. Can we end this now?
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#51
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Ft101, CaptRobPhD, WWguy, I will move your bag, if you have a problem with that call the flight attendant. Not my problem.
Comments on an anonymous forum are easy to make. As I said, only twice has someone said anything. Both times the FA removed a bag, but not mine. This is from a 'sampling' of perhaps 100 or more incidents. I am therefore providing DATA, not unsubstantiated emotional comments like 'I would dump items in the aisle'.
I would actually be interested to hear how things worked out if someone 'dumped someone's items in the aisle.'
Comments on an anonymous forum are easy to make. As I said, only twice has someone said anything. Both times the FA removed a bag, but not mine. This is from a 'sampling' of perhaps 100 or more incidents. I am therefore providing DATA, not unsubstantiated emotional comments like 'I would dump items in the aisle'.
I would actually be interested to hear how things worked out if someone 'dumped someone's items in the aisle.'
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Crew Carry on luggage taking up overhead bin space.
I am also providing factual data: I don't need to talk to the FA to (re)move you or your bag; FAs report to me on the plane.
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Which increases the probability of you getting kicked off the flight since all someone has to do, with corroboration with others overhearing your 'up close confrontation', is make the case that you have a confrontational, violent personality and that you pose a danger to others.
I've seen that happen on a couple carriers -- American and JetBlue.
Not worth it. Just get it mediated by an FA.
I've seen that happen on a couple carriers -- American and JetBlue.
Not worth it. Just get it mediated by an FA.
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My airline does not buy me tickets on my own airline, they buy me tickets on OTHER airlines. This week, for example, I have tickets on both Delta and AirTran. This year I've flown most frequently on United which is why I'm Premier Platinum on UAL. I don't work for Delta, AirTran, or United. My tickets for this week's travel cost my company right at $1100.
It's no different from if your employer bought you an airline ticket.
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You can add me to those who disagree with you since you seem to want to count. Don't take silence as agreement. Also, last time someone started moving my carry on without asking permission to do so there was a confrontation and my bag stayed where it was with the support of the FA who I paged. I put my bag opposite my seat where I could see it and the person sitting below felt entitled to that space when they boarded. FA agreed with me.
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Oh wait I can beat that! How about getting to your seat only to find a 100 rolls of toilet paper in the overhead space for 4 rows of seats. To crown it the TAM FA Said it was for the Return!!! Leg.......
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Was the flight leaving from mexico city? when they say don't drink the water ... don't drink the water.
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Moderator note.
This thread started as a discussion of crew carry-on bags taking up overhead bin space. It was taken off-topic and into an increasingly heated and personal direction by a provocative post and replies thereto discussing overhead storage of non-crew luggage. While we allowed some of this off-topic and heated discussion, the thread is increasingly spinning into discussions of a personal nature.
It's time to reset the thread and return to a discussion of the original topic and to do so in a way that will not return the thread to violations of the FlyerTalk Rules -- especially at this holiday season. Nonconforming posts have been deleted.
Ocn Vw 1K, Moderator.
It's time to reset the thread and return to a discussion of the original topic and to do so in a way that will not return the thread to violations of the FlyerTalk Rules -- especially at this holiday season. Nonconforming posts have been deleted.
Ocn Vw 1K, Moderator.
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With overhead lockers locked on both sides of the planes in rows 36-37-38, this is a whopping 18pax or 11% of pax that are denied overhead space on UA A320. Yes there is some emergency equipment (oxygen) in the last locker, but yes FA bags were overflowing in the lockers of 35. I think this shows all you need to know about US airlines. Whether it is management not properly configuring aircraft to save floor space for FA or FA and their deadheading buddies serving themselves first, I think paying pas should deserve better. Probably same situation on first row lockers in FC, so 12% is likely conservative.