FlyerTalk Forums

FlyerTalk Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php)
-   TravelBuzz (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travelbuzz-176/)
-   -   Tired of being lied to (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travelbuzz/1530543-tired-being-lied.html)

xooz Dec 14, 2013 10:37 am

Too bad for the OP that his topic devolved into this...

Zeeb Dec 14, 2013 2:05 pm


Originally Posted by xooz (Post 21965247)
Too bad for the OP that his topic devolved into this...

Yeah. It really is a valid point and I think it is why a lot of frequent flyers occasionally get on the bad side of a desk/gate agent. We've been lied to or ignored so often that we start to go into situations assuming that will be the case.

The individual slights are rarely a big deal. It just gets annoying when it happens the 100th time.

Loren Pechtel Dec 14, 2013 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by lhrsfo (Post 21958879)
You should try having gluten intolerance issues and eating out at typical restaurants in America. Complete ignorance is easy to deal with - I sit there eating my back up pack of food. But when they claim food is gluten free because there's no pasta with it, and therefore they're not prepared to let you eat your own food, you know there's trouble ahead. It's a rare place outside big cities where the staff have any understanding of food.

It's not just gluten and it's not just America.

Loren Pechtel Dec 14, 2013 8:11 pm


Originally Posted by KoKoBuddy (Post 21961379)
I know what it is. Believe me, I have been told about the evils of gluten more times than I can count. My point is restaurants don't have to cater to every illness known to man, especially every disease like Celiac that affects less than 1% of the population. If they did, about the only items on the menu would be water. Well probably not since someone somewhere is probably allergic to that as well.

Whether they can cater to the problem or not is secondary to whether they are willing to be honest about what's in food and make the attempt to find suitable things.


Adam Carolla had a funny bit about gluten allergies on his podcast recently....essentially saying nobody's allergic to anything when they're hungry and/or poor. But Americans being fat and rich, can afford to be allergic to everything under the sun. And it is interesting how 20 years ago when I was in school nobody was allerfic to anything. Today, 2/3 of the kids in my kids' class are allergic to something, which means my kids' lunches can't contain anything that's on the forbidden list.
The hungry & poor likely don't know what is a problem for them--and if it's a deadly problem they certainly don't know because they're dead. Furthermore, there's a major suspicion that sanitation plays a role--the hungry and poor likely don't develop allergies in the first place.

I also think that keeping everyone from eating something because one kid in the class can't eat it is not the right way to handle it. The burden should be on the person with the allergy, they should impose on others to an absolute minimum and merely having somebody nearby eating the forbidden good isn't going to kill them.

If you're worried about the kids trading food then sit all the allergic kids at an allergy table where none of the problem foods are allowed.

Loren Pechtel Dec 14, 2013 8:15 pm


Originally Posted by milepig (Post 21961430)
I actually know someone who's allergic to SALT. Makes dining out a true adventure.

That's not possible. You could not live with such an allergy.

It could be that they're allergic to something else that's in the salt, though--say, incomplete purification of an organic source used for iodine. Trying to trace down reactions to impurities can be quite difficult even if you know how to do it and your reaction is mild enough that experimenting is merely unpleasant.

Loren Pechtel Dec 14, 2013 8:16 pm


Originally Posted by CDTraveler (Post 21961450)
If you look at Europe, first world parts of Asia and North America, yes, for the most part, the U.S. is the absolute worst, most ignorant place when it comes to celiac disease. Part of that is due to lawsuit paranoia, part of it is public perception of celiac as just another stupid celebrity fad, and part of it is just plain "Don't inconvenience me, because I'm too important to give a d@mn about your problems" attitude that often greets even minor questions about the menu or cooking technique.

And to a large degree it is a fad. The number of people eating gluten-free is far more than the number of celiacs.

Tizzette Dec 14, 2013 8:23 pm

If not outright lied to, at least short shrifted. Too often there is a better seat, a better room, a better table, but if the lazybones employee has to put out the slighest bit more effort to make it available to you, they won't.

WIRunner Dec 14, 2013 8:23 pm

Most annoying one (for me) was when the guy at Thrifty in MKE told me that the Focus was rear wheel drive with no ABS or traction control. When I questioned him about it he went on about how unstable the car was and that an upgrade into the Escape was worth the $20 per day.

obscure2k Dec 14, 2013 8:54 pm

Folks, this thread is all over the place. Not TravelBuzz.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend as I lock this thread.
Obscure2k
TravelBuzz Moderator


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 4:13 am.


This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.