Do we fly for the right reasons.
#1
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Join Date: Sep 2013
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Do we fly for the right reasons.
I sometimes internalize and wonder am I flying for the love of it, or has the imperative of seeking premium status taken over. I am going to ANC, not because I want to, but because I have to achieve EXP on AA soon. Am I a frequent flyer or a status attainer ? Can someone help me in my philosophical dilemma.
#2
Join Date: Oct 2010
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I sometimes internalize and wonder am I flying for the love of it, or has the imperative of seeking premium status taken over. I am going to ANC, not because I want to, but because I have to achieve EXP on AA soon. Am I a frequent flyer or a status attainer ? Can someone help me in my philosophical dilemma.
I also do a lot of international travel (alone) where the payoff to being OWE is huge no matter what class of cabin.
#3
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As your philosophical dilemma is one that is more or less universal in the frequent flyer community, and not really related specifically to AA or the AAdvantage programme, I am going to move it to the MilesBuzz forum for discussion by the wider FlyerTalk cohort.
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#4
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Do we fly for the right reasons.
I gave up on that dilemma long ago when I opted for the easy answer: I fly for both reasons.
The pleasure of a long good flight is unbeatable, it's sort of a romantic (in the broader sense) experience, alone in the middle of nowhere. The flight itself often become the most imporatnt part of the trip.
On the other hand, having the status and be able to relax in the lounge, skip the queue etc - make for a better experience overall.
Status also helps a lot as I travel for work frequently.
The pleasure of a long good flight is unbeatable, it's sort of a romantic (in the broader sense) experience, alone in the middle of nowhere. The flight itself often become the most imporatnt part of the trip.
On the other hand, having the status and be able to relax in the lounge, skip the queue etc - make for a better experience overall.
Status also helps a lot as I travel for work frequently.
#5
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: ECP
Programs: DL Diamond
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For me, the payoff is when I do long-haul F with my spouse. I always feel a bit sorry for the people who are sitting rich and alone in the first class cabins, the caviar and champagne so very much better with a partner. Personally, I could sit in coach all the time when I am alone, I really don't care, but the spouse LOVES international F (and The Wing HKG and Qantas F lounge SYD!)
I also do a lot of international travel (alone) where the payoff to being OWE is huge no matter what class of cabin.
I also do a lot of international travel (alone) where the payoff to being OWE is huge no matter what class of cabin.
#6
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: TLV
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I gave up trying to game the status system this year and it has already saved me a ton of cash since I own my own business. Probably enough to buy a few more tickets. Priority pass is a lifesaver.
#7
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
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I have multiple lifetime/million mile/blah blah statuses, but, iirc, have taken exactly one extra segment to stretch for a status (late December, took a connection instead of a non-stop to get to 75 segments).
I maximize my status/points/etc., within the framework of getting to client sites, doing my job, etc. This may be anti-FT philosophy, but I do find flying somewhere for no reason or paying/burning points to stay in a hotel for no reason kind of odd.
I maximize my status/points/etc., within the framework of getting to client sites, doing my job, etc. This may be anti-FT philosophy, but I do find flying somewhere for no reason or paying/burning points to stay in a hotel for no reason kind of odd.
#8
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Yup, I surely have taken a crapton of unnecessary trips over the years. But I've loved it. I've never engaged in a MR. I don't do that. I take a weekend, go somewhere (like IST, DUB, PRG, BRU x 2, LHR x 2, EZE, ELP x 3, NYC x 6, BNA, MSP, MSY x 3, SEA x 4, PDX x 2, AVL x 3, RDU x 4, MIA/FLL x 3, BOS x 2, LAX x 5, ORD x 2, AUS x 2, MCI, YYC, KOA, ANC, STL, YVR, DFW, YUL, IAH, PHX, DEN x 2, PHL, etc to the etc power). I remember distinctly that in 2009 I was home for maybe 15-20 days. I've pretty much traveled non-stop for the past 6 years. I'd put my travels up against anyone, anywhere.
All of this traveling has afforded me the ability to stay in touch with family and friends. I'm eternally grateful for that. The downside is that well over 80% of all my expenses are travel related...
So, am I doing it for the right reasons? Who knows? I like buying for family free tickets, hotel rooms, etc. And I get to experience new places and things, which doesn't get all that old. Plus, I think it's contributed to my happiness. I wouldn't change it, I do know what. But, approaching 30 now, I may have to cut back and maybe think of settling somewhere.
All of this traveling has afforded me the ability to stay in touch with family and friends. I'm eternally grateful for that. The downside is that well over 80% of all my expenses are travel related...
So, am I doing it for the right reasons? Who knows? I like buying for family free tickets, hotel rooms, etc. And I get to experience new places and things, which doesn't get all that old. Plus, I think it's contributed to my happiness. I wouldn't change it, I do know what. But, approaching 30 now, I may have to cut back and maybe think of settling somewhere.
#9
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A good ole MR does contribute to the eventual well being of premium travel, like first class lounges, preferred seating and precedence for waitlisting, but they can be so tedious sometimes. Is all the trouble worth it? I am sure that I like the result, so I will suffer the effort.....which sometimes is effortless, like on free travel and hotel stays.
#10
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I have to fly to see most of my family members (an ocean and a continent are in the way)...if I did not want to see them, I could avoid flying.
However, I usually enjoy going places, so it's not too big of a deal.
However, I usually enjoy going places, so it's not too big of a deal.
#11
Join Date: Apr 2009
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I have discovered that for most of my flying (TLV to Europe and TATL) that upgrades are virtually nonexistent, and with Priority Pass, I don't really need lounge access from status, so sadly, this year it looks like I'll only end up Gold on DL. There's a slight chance I'll make *G on United or Platinum on AA but unlikely.
I debated switching to the TK program to get *G easier but ultimately decided that UA's earn/burn rates were better and I was better off being * Silver on UA than *G on TK although I'm willing to be convinced otherwise if someone can make the case.
I debated switching to the TK program to get *G easier but ultimately decided that UA's earn/burn rates were better and I was better off being * Silver on UA than *G on TK although I'm willing to be convinced otherwise if someone can make the case.
#12
Join Date: Mar 2007
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I have multiple lifetime/million mile/blah blah statuses, but, iirc, have taken exactly one extra segment to stretch for a status (late December, took a connection instead of a non-stop to get to 75 segments).
I maximize my status/points/etc., within the framework of getting to client sites, doing my job, etc. This may be anti-FT philosophy, but I do find flying somewhere for no reason or paying/burning points to stay in a hotel for no reason kind of odd.
I maximize my status/points/etc., within the framework of getting to client sites, doing my job, etc. This may be anti-FT philosophy, but I do find flying somewhere for no reason or paying/burning points to stay in a hotel for no reason kind of odd.
#13
In Memoriam
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: COS
Programs: JAL Global Club, One World Sapphire, IHG Platinum, Marriott Gold
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I haven't flown at all this year and I have no plans to fly at all anytime in the near future. I obtained my status with JAL when I was single and flying solely for pleasure. Now I'm married and am battling a serious illness so there is no money for flying or hotels. No regrets here, I had a great run.
And as long as JAL doesn't change it's policies, I have enough miles to keep me OneWorld Sapphire for the next 27 years so when I am able to fly again, my wife and I will still be able to enjoy the benefits it provides.
And as long as JAL doesn't change it's policies, I have enough miles to keep me OneWorld Sapphire for the next 27 years so when I am able to fly again, my wife and I will still be able to enjoy the benefits it provides.
#14
Used to be 'Travelergcp'
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: New Orleans
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I sometimes internalize and wonder am I flying for the love of it, or has the imperative of seeking premium status taken over. I am going to ANC, not because I want to, but because I have to achieve EXP on AA soon. Am I a frequent flyer or a status attainer ? Can someone help me in my philosophical dilemma.
#15
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Can't imagine doing an MR, but then I've always had enough travel to make the top tier. I do sometimes though adjust my schedule or routing a little to fly on a specific aircraft....ones I haven't flown before, inaugural flights, cabin refits, etc.