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amolkold Sep 29, 2013 8:15 pm


Originally Posted by Gamecock (Post 21526623)
Understood that from the start.

But I can walk the length of steerage without looking at someones laptop, long enough to lock in on what program they are using much less the signal strength bars on an iPhone.

The iPhone entered my field of view when the FA briefly lifted it up (I was looking in that general direction toward a drop down LCD). It took less than a split second to notice.

brownie20 Sep 29, 2013 8:44 pm

"oh that's interesting - i didn't know we get reception up here!" ;) lol i probably would have just passed her by after a little staring :)

erik19283 Sep 29, 2013 9:36 pm


Originally Posted by brownie20 (Post 21526789)
"oh that's interesting - i didn't know we get reception up here!" ;) lol i probably would have just passed her by after a little staring :)

So far, this is the best one. ;)

resolute Sep 29, 2013 10:07 pm

Never mind..

cynicAAl Sep 29, 2013 10:33 pm


Originally Posted by amolkold (Post 21526459)
If FAs don't bother to put phones in airplane mode, why should pax?

good point; pax shouldn't either.


Originally Posted by amolkold (Post 21526459)
Everyone talks about the danger of cell phones to inflight instruments, isn't this a safety concern?

Everyone ? no.

Safety concern ? no


Originally Posted by amolkold (Post 21526459)
Why should I MMOB on a safety issue?

it's not a safety issue.

Looking at someone's phone close enough to see their screen is creepy.

Spectre17 Sep 29, 2013 10:54 pm


Originally Posted by amolkold (Post 21526459)
Everyone talks about the danger of cell phones to inflight instruments, isn't this a safety concern?

I was under the impression this is really an FCC concern, not an FAA concern. Cellphones at altitude can hit a lot more cellphone towers simultaneously which makes them busiers/less able to respond to actual users on the ground who can't hit so many towers.

Mythbusters looked into this a while back. A summary of their findings can be found here.

skylady Sep 30, 2013 1:32 am

What was the airlines response when you contacted them?

Apieinthesky Sep 30, 2013 4:10 am


Originally Posted by Gamecock (Post 21526623)
Understood that from the start.

But I can walk the length of steerage without looking at someones laptop, long enough to lock in on what program they are using much less the signal strength bars on an iPhone.

Well if you're walking from the rear toward the front, it's quite easy to see the screens of people's laptops or phones that are pointed toward you. And it is generally much easier to notice something that's not supposed to be there, like 3 bars on a cell phone when you're airborne. It only takes a split second for your eyes to capture that image, and it may take a second or two for your brain to process that image before you realize the implication of what you saw. So if OP says he wasn't purposely trying to look at others' devices, I believe him (or her).


Originally Posted by amolkold (Post 21526459)
If FAs don't bother to put phones in airplane mode, why should pax? Everyone talks about the danger of cell phones to inflight instruments, isn't this a safety concern? Why should I MMOB on a safety issue?

TBH, not many people on FT will agree that there's a safety issue. I certainly don't, and leave my phone on all the time on a flight, sometimes without turning airplane mode on, either because I was too lazy or I simply forgot. If this happened to me, I wouldn't give it a second thought. If it bothered you, you could've said something.

If a FA asked me to turn my phone off or turn off the cellular function, I would obey because "not obeying crew member instructions" could get me in serious trouble, not because I think it's a safety issue.

tkjazzer Sep 30, 2013 8:52 pm

I'm surprised she had signal. Most planes don't get signal at altitude. You must have been flying right over a cell tower.

planes&trains Oct 1, 2013 12:36 am

Signal in flight? What was the altitude?

Second, pax and FA are not the same. Remember? They get to walk around several minutes ahead of the seatbelt sign going off for others. Not that it excuses use of phone, if signal available, but all I am saying is that just because there is a rule for us does not mean the same rule should be enforced on them.

Finally, even if there was signal and assuming FAA is correct about interference, then three FA phones versus 100 pax phones is not apples to apples.

I envy OP's vision. Must be really good.

amolkold Oct 1, 2013 1:15 pm


Originally Posted by planes&trains (Post 21533114)
Signal in flight? What was the altitude?

Cruising, so above 30k.


I envy OP's vision. Must be really good.
I've been eating a lot of domestic lounge carrots lately ....

fti Oct 1, 2013 6:30 pm


Originally Posted by amolkold (Post 21522339)
I did the first 2 but instead of sleeping, I posted on FT because I need to stay awake to readjust to new time zone :p


Originally Posted by amolkold (Post 21526459)
I was awake the entire flight so it's not like I missed it.

Hmm. You were asleep the first 2 hours but you were awake the entire flight? :confused:

Spiff Oct 1, 2013 6:48 pm


Originally Posted by amolkold (Post 21522303)
I kind of want to call her out ... what would FTers do?

Ignore. It's none of your business and it's not a safety issue.

amolkold Oct 2, 2013 2:48 am


Originally Posted by fti (Post 21537963)
Hmm. You were asleep the first 2 hours but you were awake the entire flight? :confused:


Originally Posted by tailwindflyer (Post 21522319)
Nothing. Go back to seat, but headphones on, and try to get some sleep.

"the first 2"


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