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Wonder if he's been fired yet? Kinda looks like it was filmed on company property, and calling the customers a-holes is probably not going to be looked at real well.
While I agree that he has some valid points, he's also pretty far off base on others. As for the weight of the bag, quite frankly that's more a problem with his employer than the customer. With the way luggage fees have taken off, people aren't going to check more than one bag unless they have to, which means that one bag will be stuffed to the limit of their weight. (Although he claims most bags are 60-80 pounds, he's obviously just exaggerating there, since unless you're in first or an elite, you're limit is probably 50 pounds, and most people I know aren't willing to pay the heavy bag surcharge.) I have checked a couple of bags in the last couple years that were in the 50-75 pound range. It was when it was allowed because of the class of travel I was travelling, and so quite frankly, what the baggage carriers think of that isn't my problem. That's a problem they need to deal with their employer about. When I've done it, it's been because of the travel I was doing, especially on routes that could end up in a number of different climates (like, say a cruise that starts in Rio and rounds Cape Horn, not exactly the same clothing requirements). Generally I travel on vacation, and I'm not interested in constantly cleaning clothes, so I'd rather travel with a few more sets that some of those people that find they can live out of their carryon (quite frankly, my carryon is typically filled with camera and other electronics, so there's no room for clothes there anyways). |
My opinion is that those needing more luggage allowance because they're going on cruises, is that the airline needs to compromise a bit and passengers should pack sensibly.
A single bag that weights 60kg+ is no easier on the cruise emplyee than it is on a airline handler, but they often/usually have trolleys to get the luggage to the cabins. Not so with the handlers at the airport. If they have to lift those boulders, they can count on having injureds backs within a few years of employment, which can cause life-time misery for many. Minimum wage cannot never make up for that. Until airlines can provide a solution, for example invest specail barrows for the heavy bagg (using the surplus cost) there will be disgruntled handlers. I don't blame them at all! And though one would like to think that people would have the good sense of putting important/essential medications in their carry on's, we mustn't forget that a lot of them are first time travelers. Along with other important information the travel agents, or the cruise lines should make it policy to include this essential information. I'm with this guy all the way ~ the onus is on the airlines. For passengers who feel put out by his crititisism, I personally feel it's veyr misplaced. |
Originally Posted by piper28
(Post 21304883)
Wonder if he's been fired yet? Kinda looks like it was filmed on company property, and calling the customers a-holes is probably not going to be looked at real well.
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Originally Posted by coachrowsey
(Post 21298211)
Please tell me how many years you've done this job ? So many of my former co workers are out on oji & will never work again all because of heavy luggage. Now there are other reasons also & one can get hurt also on bags that aren't "heavy" but again most oji's do come from the heavy bags.
What I cannot sympathise with however, is someone taking a job where your sole responsibility is moving heavy bags moaning about how customers are idiots etc. for taking too much on holiday with them because they don't like lifting those bags. If it's that big a deal to you then you shouldn't be in that line of work. |
Originally Posted by callum9999
(Post 21305798)
If it's that big a deal to you then you shouldn't be in that line of work.
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Originally Posted by callum9999
(Post 21305798)
As someone who lifts things of a similar weight at work (though thankfully, nowhere near as often as baggage handlers do) I can sympathise with getting bad backs etc.
What I cannot sympathise with however, is someone taking a job where your sole responsibility is moving heavy bags moaning about how customers are idiots etc. for taking too much on holiday with them because they don't like lifting those bags. If it's that big a deal to you then you shouldn't be in that line of work. Not unlike the guys at FedEX handling big stuff. It's a known part of the job. Lucky if you get a shift unloading boxes full of pillows destined for 'Bed n' Bath'. Not so much fun when it's monster big screen TVs, but it's part of the job. If it's more than you bargained for and you feel your health is in jeopardy but no workplace rules are being violated, then it's time to find another job. I know age (and prior injury) can be a factor, but if you can't carry your load (no pun intended), then it's time to move on, not expect your co-workers to pick up the slack. This guy wants pax to understand his situation and accommodate him. Perhaps he could also try to understand exactly why pax carry heavy bags sometimes - and what his own employer could do about it (starting with imposing a free weight limit across multiple bags, instead of a max weight limit per bag). |
Originally Posted by coachrowsey
(Post 21305824)
One word retired:D
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A while back I had to teach safe handling in the workplace - correct lifting techniques, two-man lifts, etc. It wasn't the airline industry, but it was somewhere where lifting was a regular part of the job.
If employees are not adhering to what they are taught (of which many of the guys I taught were guilty, and were written up accordingly!) then it isn't the customer's fault. If someone cannot handle 30-40lb (half of the 60-80lb load claimed) then I don't think it is the right job for them. If the union / employer are not enforcing the correct lifting techniques, they are also to blame. |
Originally Posted by piper28
(Post 21304883)
Wonder if he's been fired yet? Kinda looks like it was filmed on company property, and calling the customers a-holes is probably not going to be looked at real well.
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Actually, I liked the video and think he's 100%. I would even chip in for his bonus. It is a great non-official way to get people off their baggage helter-skelter.
I see people getting their LV (esp. checked luggage) and think ... man, if you can splurge on that, why are you flying commercial? Yeah, I'm thinking on getting this carry-on and this laptop bag, but those are carry-on and will no way get to high weight. Even when bringing wardrobes between countries (depending on my segway between seasons in southern/northern hemispheres) my check-in (yes, singular) never exceed 20kg. One of the best points was about shipping. It will make your life going through customs much easier!! Whether domestic or intl, taking 5 minutes out to find a good package shop outside the hotel makes the trip home much more enjoyable. |
Originally Posted by Sarfa33
(Post 21307270)
According to the comments below the video, he has since graduated from school and gotten a job as a "Federally licensed Airframe and Powerplant technician working for the third largest defense contractor in the world." :rolleyes:
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IBTL.
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Before some of you get all bent out of shape about this video, you need to realize and accept the fact that:
1) Bags are stacked in bins with the largest & heaviest bags going on the bottom. It doesn't matter if you put the world's largest fragile sticker on it. No one is going to stack your oversized, 80 pound bag on top of a bunch of little bags. It doesn't stack properly that way. If you have something fragile then take it with you. 2) These guys, for the most part, are paid between minimum wage and $11. You get what you pay for. |
Having worked as a baggage handler before, I have a few thoughts on this. To an extent I agree with most of what he said in the general sense that passengers need to have more common sense when packing their bags, if they're at all concerned about what happens to it. If you don't want to run the risk of something being lost or broken, keep those things that are expensive and/or can be broken with you in your carry on luggage. When I travel, all I really have in my checked bag is clothes, shoes, toiletries, etc...things that wont break. And in theory, that's the bulk of what you should be traveling with anyway.
As far as the heaviness of the bags go, I never personally cared much about that. If lifting 75-100 lb objects was too hard for me, I never would have done the job. But at the same time, obviously the heavier the bag the more difficult it becomes to move and stack. Which wouldn't be a big deal if departure times were based on how many bags there are or how "difficult" it is to unload and load. But unfortunately, that's not the way it works. And I guess that's what bugs me when I see people complaining about the way baggage handlers "throw" their luggage around. It's understandable if you want your bag treated like it's a newborn baby and handled with white gloves, but then you'd have to be more understanding if it takes the rampers an extra half hour to load the plane and get you on your way. Loading and unloading the several thousand pounds of baggage, freight, mail, etc from the tiny pits of an airplane is A LOT of work. And to do it all within the 40-50 min turn time most planes have on the ground requires rampers to work incredibly fast and efficient. Not to mention having to keep in mind weight and balance issues that affect the safety and performance of the plane itself. As with most professions, I suppose you'd have to actually spend some time doing it to truly gain an appreciation for how tough, physical, and incredibly dangerous of a job it is. I can assure you one thing, 99% of baggage handlers do what they can, within reason, to assure luggage isn't damaged. But at the end of the day, there is just no realistic way to give each of the tens of thousands of bags that pass through each airport white glove treatment and also expect such a complex operation to run with any kind of efficiency. Just my two cents. |
I was surprised that my bags turned up in YVR after I had a rant about luggage at LAX and how it was just wheeled through the airport on a trolley for anybody to touch, steal or worse, put something in.
That's possibly why I ended up being singled out for a body search! I was advised to wait whilst they got a female agent who arrived and said..."now.. I'm going to touch you and when I say I am going to touch you, I mean I am going to touch you ALL over"! Now that was quite fun! Some folks would pay money to see that! lol |
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