Bags - Overhead Bin - Super Aggressive Couple
 

Reading the whole thread and still wondering why in the world they do not enforce maximum size of carry-on on US domestic flights. This way everybody will get a chance to travel in a more civilized way, everybody will learn to pack better, and the boarding /off-boarding process would reduce to just few minutes...

I find it odd that the airlines fly without any cargo, but with a cabin filled to the brim. Instead, they could take 1 piece of luggage for free to the cargo hall and allow just one carry-on onboard. People would also travel better...

I agree with this. Charging for a Single checked bag is the dumbest thing an airline can do. They really should be charging for the big carry-ons (under the seat luggage is free but overhead bin luggage costs you). If they gave one checked bag all the cheap infrequent travellers will check bags rather than cramming their bags into the overhead bins. The only exception to this carry-on charge should be diaper bags and bags filled with toys to distract small children from being PITAs.

There is a lot of blame to go around on the general topic, but it starts with the fact that individual pax are not hall monitors in elementary school. If you see another pax do something you don't like or don't think ought to be the way it is, you call a FA.

It's also the case that OH space doesn't "belong" to a seat. You may not like it that the guy in Row 27 put his bag in the OH above Row 10, but I haven't yet seen an air carrier which reserves OH space other than in premium cabins.

The carriers themselves bear responsibility here for creating the mess in the first place. The question isn't whether some fool can't jack hammer his bag into the OH, it's whether his bag fits the published dimensions for carry-ons. Period.

It's the carrier's fault for not strictly and evenly enforcing its own carry-on policy. While it's true that most narrow-body aircraft probably can't acommodate all allowed carry-ons if everybody brings them, it's also true that not all do so. If carry-on size limits were strictly enforced, the entire boarding mess would not be a crisis, there would not need to be fights about OH space and so forth.

Show up with an oversize bag at the gate and it ought to be checked through to the baggage office of the final destination where it can be icked up after the fees and a penalty are paid. The average person who can afford an air ticket ought to be able to measure his bag.

But if you just shove your bag in any old space because you are too lazy to carry it up the plane, you are risking having the folks in those rows doing salmon swimming up stream to get their bags against the flow of passengers.

Sorry, that's awful and inconsiderate.

So how does an individual pax tell the difference between someone following the FA's orders to stow the bag in the first available space and somebody "too lazy to carry it up the plane?" Telepathy? Magic powers?

And who gives out the "right" for one person to make that judgement anyway? The same committee that makes it o.k. to move someone else's belongings because you think they violated some invisible, unwritten airline rule?

Have a problem with someone else's bag? Call the FA and let them decide who is the one causing the problem.

That is fine except for one problem the bag in question is in the front of the cabin and by the time it gets moved the PAX is at the back of the cabin. I have no problem with bags stored in general proximity of the PAX seat - it is those that are not when there is ample space near them are the rude ones.

I have never had a FA announce that except towards the end of boarding. The issue is when PAX do it early/middle in the boarding process when there is still ample space else through out the plane. FAs seem pretty quick to know when the bins are getting full and scrum match for space begins. If during the scrum match first come first serve but before hand stowing a bag any where but with general proximity is rude.

Exactly, it all about being considerate. It is gray area. I do no mind stowing my bag a couple three seats back - it happens. But when a PAX takes bin space and then walks 15-20 seats back past usable bin space that is being inconsiderate.

Totally agree.

Checked bag fees at the 15 largest US airlines accounted for something like $3.5 billion in revenues in 2012. Charging for checked bags is the smartest thing an airline can do. Well, that, and not crash. :)

Spirit does charge for carryons placed in the bins - $50 each, I think.

They can continue to charge for whatever thery want, but still NOT allow large bags onboard. I have seen waay too many people on US domestic flights that pack huuuge suitcases for a 3-7 days trip.

At the moment all US airlines check 1-3 free bags for Elites; anybody can buy Elite status through credit cards; my thinking is that they get the 3.5B from non-frequent pax or from excessive luggage.

Part of the problem is that checked bags are often delayed, lost, and damaged, plus TSA can go through the bag and steal or damage stuff. People use carry on not always to avoid fees but to avoid the risks of checking a bag.

I was on a flight the other night where a woman shoved her large wheeled bag into the first bin in coach, right above the bulkhead seats whose occupants have to stow everything they've got up there, then marched back about eight rows to her seat under a bunch of empty bins. Incredibly rude and inconsiderate.

I would never do that. Not only is it rude, but then you can't keep an eye on your bag. And someone might notice you doing it and decide to place their luggage lock around the zippers on your bag.

Been on a US Airways TATL flight lately?

I was traveling with a disabled companion, so we were among the first to board and had plenty of opportunity to hear the FA's make the "stow your bag and be seated" announcement from almost the very start of boarding. The boarding started late (incoming flight late) and the crew wanted to make our scheduled time for take-off.

YMMV.

Time to spend $30 on an Abloy muahahahahah.

Bags - Overhead Bin - Super Aggressive Couple
 

Part of the lack of OH space is due to people not putting their personal item under the seat.

If you won't put an item under the seat
then you shouldn't have both a carry on and personal