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JerryFF Feb 24, 2013 6:10 pm

I never cease to be amazed how many different ways religion seems to create problems and controversy in our society.

celle Feb 24, 2013 6:11 pm


Originally Posted by uclalum (Post 20309257)
So long as they are silent/quiet (non-disruptive) and not blocking tradfic, should be a non-issue. My empathy ends, regardless of if this is in a lounge or not, when feet are washed in drinking fountains. Also, when sinks are used and the bathroom floor is left with obvious puddles and zero attempt us made to wipe them up.

Would all the other respondents declaring non-issue have the same response if instead of someone praying it was someone using the same space to post up, lie down, and take a nap on the floor?

Your first sentence answered the question asked.

The rest of your post seems unnecessary, and faintly xenophobic.

I'd have no objection on religious grounds if someone wanted to wash their feet (even though I think it's a bit tacky, as far as manners go). My concern would be more the potential for an accident - someone might slip on the wet floor. For that reason alone, I would probably suggest that the perpetrator might care to dry the floor.

As for sleeping on the floor - seen that in many airports. It's not an issue for me.

WIRunner Feb 24, 2013 6:12 pm

If it bothered you so much, you could have left.

Andy Big Bear Feb 24, 2013 6:30 pm


Originally Posted by JerryFF (Post 20310413)
I never cease to be amazed how many different ways religion seems to create problems and controversy in our society.

Agreed, I try to tackle the problem with some humor, but at the end of the day people are different. I like to think that if people's actions don't really effect you directly, just respect people's right to be left alone. Personally, I don't go around witnessing to people in lounges, although Evangelicals are encouraged to do so. I've seen fellow members of the flock do this to their seatmates on airplanes and I have to admit that makes me cringe.

celle Feb 24, 2013 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by Andy Big Bear (Post 20310470)
Agreed, I try to tackle the problem with some humor, but at the end of the day people are different. I like to think that if people's actions don't really effect you directly, just respect people's right to be left alone. Personally, I don't go around witnessing to people in lounges, although Evangelicals are encouraged to do so. I've seen fellow members of the flock do this to their seatmates on airplanes and I have to admit that makes me cringe.

And that would get a pretty dusty answer from me!

I try to ignore other people's behaviour, as long as it is not causing harm to me or anyone else, but I do not tolerate anyone trying to force their beliefs or behaviour on me. I don't force my beliefs on others, either.

kimberlyrose Feb 24, 2013 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by NYTA (Post 20308723)
Sitting in the "Borromini" Alitalia lounge at FCO in the desk area working on my laptop. A group of guys comes into the desk area, take of their shoes, face Mecca and start praying.

Now I'm all for freedom of religion, but I personally find the time and place to be offensive, especially since there are non-denominational chapels in just about every airport these days and FCO supposedly has prayer rooms. http://www.adr.it/web/aeroporti-di-r...oms-and-chapel

Even more so when it's in the desk area which is generally supposed to be for work purposes.

Should lounges be a "no praying" zone?

Like I tell my kids: worry about yourself, not other people.

uszkanni Feb 24, 2013 11:31 pm

Like others have said, as long as they're not obstructing the flow of people or making a lot of noise or otherwise adversely impacting other lounge-goers, what's the problem?

javabytes Feb 24, 2013 11:44 pm


Originally Posted by Palal (Post 20308802)
As long as it was not in a 'quiet area' and not impeding traffic, it would not bother me. Idiots screaming on cell phones bother me a lot more than praying.

+1

Lounges see far worse. If the prayer is quiet and respectful, how could it be any more intrusive than a few people having a conversation?

cbn42 Feb 25, 2013 12:44 am

Forget a lounge, I have seen this on an airplane. Pax went to the galley and set up their carpets and prayed. Some (American) passengers freaked out but the FA calmed them down.

Tennis69 Feb 25, 2013 2:07 am

To all you tolerant folks, try this one time -

Put a cross around your neck, pull out a bible, and start praying in the gate area in RUH and see what happens.

Christopher Feb 25, 2013 2:35 am


Originally Posted by Tennis69 (Post 20311938)
To all you tolerant folks, try this one time -

Put a cross around your neck, pull out a bible, and start praying in the gate area in RUH and see what happens.

Point taken. However, the fact that someone else is intolerant doesn't mean that one should be oneself.

However, where other people are affected - for example, if someone is being noisy or is blocking a passageway or getting in the way, or if the floors of public lavatories are left awash with water - then I think it is reasonable to object.

EuropeanPete Feb 25, 2013 3:28 am


Originally Posted by Tennis69 (Post 20311938)
To all you tolerant folks, try this one time -

Put a cross around your neck, pull out a bible, and start praying in the gate area in RUH and see what happens.

Nothing will happen.

In any case, it is somewhat beside the point. 5-times daily prayers are a core part of a religion than has a billion followers. It should surprise nobody that every now and then you're going to see someone going about their own business.

slawecki Feb 25, 2013 8:15 am

i find those worshiping the mighty cell phone god to be more disruptive. trains have quiet cars. why cannot lounges have quiet sections. no tv, no cell phones. just the click of keys being punched and the rustle of pages being turned.

most lounges have figured out how to avoid my"TV BE GONE" toy.

LTBoston Feb 25, 2013 8:42 am


Originally Posted by Tennis69 (Post 20311938)
To all you tolerant folks, try this one time -

Put a cross around your neck, pull out a bible, and start praying in the gate area in RUH and see what happens.

What's your point? That the US should emulate less religiously tolerant countries?

goalie Feb 25, 2013 8:49 am


Originally Posted by Palal (Post 20308802)
As long as it was not in a 'quiet area' and not impeding traffic, it would not bother me. Idiots screaming on cell phones bother me a lot more than praying.

Agreed as well ^


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