Originally Posted by DL Platinum
(Post 19750168)
KLM was the original carrier. Delta is only tied because they tried to help this lady after KLM could or would not. It is unfortunate and tragic, but she did refuse medical treatment in the country she was in. I can hardly see how DL has responsibility here. Rather, shouldn't we look at the husband who knew of her weight and mobility issues and should have booked a seat that would accommodate her? He did book two coach seats for her so maybe he tried, but most carriers have seats called "business" or "first class". A person of her size would have at least "fit" in the forward cabin. Not sure what the weight limits are of those seats, but I've seen many a person of size up front.
One-way ticket to ____ after buying a roundtrip ticket from DL via AMS? The "forward cabin" doesn't work as well for such obese passengers as multiple seats in the back cabin of a plane with three adjoining seats. |
Originally Posted by itsaboutthejourney
(Post 19750351)
Misleading/dramatic thread titles such as this are one (of many) things that make DL executives dismissive of FlyerTalk @:-)
DL flew this woman to Europe and so did KLM? Neither flew her back. |
The airlines were able to board here even in October.
Originally Posted by empedocles
(Post 19747022)
They could fly her there but couldn't fly her back? :confused:
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Originally Posted by itsaboutthejourney
(Post 19750351)
Misleading/dramatic thread titles such as this are one (of many) things that make DL executives dismissive of FlyerTalk @:-)
My condolences to the husband, but I think the LH spokesman was the must blunt and correct: “The question was never the seat belt. The question was the mobility of the passenger.” Thank You |
They could afford a vacation home in Hungary but not.......well, nevermind. I'm joining the personal responsibility bandwagon. And, they bought a vacation home in a country where they didn't trust the medical community? Just looking at this woman's picture tells me her diabetes didn't pop up out of the blue one day.
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FWIW while flying is the first choice for many taking a cargo ship is also an option.
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As usual in these cases, the lesson here is to travel with medical evacuation insurance. Especially if you are in ill health.
Having grown up in Hungary their suspicion of the medical establishment there may have been well founded but they could have driven a short distance to a number of other nearby countries to obtain world class care. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 19750420)
The airlines were able to board here even in October.
Maybe she gained weight and had further health complications in Hungary that further compromised her mobility after DL flew her to Europe and KL flew her beyond AMS in mid-September? |
Originally Posted by FlyingUnderTheRadar
(Post 19750662)
FWIW while flying is the first choice for many taking a cargo ship is also an option.
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If an airline believes it is unsafe to fly you due to medical risk they can refuse boarding. Last thing the airline needs is a dead body on a several hour flight or having to put down somewhere on the way to have an ambulance cart someone off the plane.
I agree, while unfortunate, there is an element of personal responsibility here. DL should fight this with every lawyer they have. |
Originally Posted by N830MH
(Post 19750840)
Absolutely not! They won't even allow it. Only cruise ship. There's was no way to put her in the cargo ship. She will get seasick. She wasn't too uncomfortable for her to fly.
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425lbs. is enormous, too big to fit in two regular airline seats, and too big to fit in F seats. I'd be surprised if any Y row had enough space for her to fit from the anterior-posterior perspective. It sounds like multiple heroic attempts were made to try to load her onto aircraft, even using fire crews to help. I see no blame whatsoever lying with the airlines.
Life expectancy when one weighs 425 lbs. is pretty short, especially if they have severe enough diabetes to already have had a leg amputated and be nearing dialysis as this lady seemed to be. As mentioned, even though health care in Hungary is questionable, the drive to France or Germany is not that far. RIP. Hope the judge imposes penalties for filing a frivolous suit. |
Originally Posted by 122554
(Post 19750438)
What is misleading about the title? Please let me know with your infinite wisdom how you would have worded it.
Thank You A more accurate title would be something like "Morbidly obese woman dies after refusing medical care while traveling." |
NY woman dead after KLM won't fly her.
Very sad and difficult situation for all involved.
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Originally Posted by averycampbell
(Post 19746930)
If y'all don't fit, y'all don't fit. It sucks, but she really should of sought medical treatment in Hungary. There are American-quality clinics in Budapest.
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