Horrible treatment by Canadian Customs/Immigration (CBSA) at YVR
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As an Alaska resident I've made many border crossings into Canada by land, though I've also flown into Canada through a variety if gateway cities as well. I always expect Customs to do their duty in any country I visit and as such I think my overall demeanor and comfort level with Customs officials reflect that. Despite my appearance (Beard, longer hair, backpack) and/or occasionally peculiar itineraries, I've generally always been treated with respect and courtesy despite having gotten the second degree on a couple of occasions while entering Canada.
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I have been entering the USA on tourist visas, on Green Card, and finally on US passport. Of course, it is my personal experience, but I have not noticed a drastic difference in treatment or length of questioning from INS and [later] CBP agents. I would even say that if you are subjected to a "regular" interview at the primary, the level of privacy intrusion would be the same for foreigners and returning US citizens. It is still quite high for my taste... would rather prefer the speedy [and quiet] process of entering Germany.
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I was then told "empty your pockets and step away from the table". . . . .Meanwhile, I was asked over and over again what drugs I took and what I'd been arrested for. The more I said "none and nothing", the more I said "I'm going to Alaska for fun" the more condescending and accusatory they became.
They saw I had an entry stamp from SDQ on 9/1 and an exit on 9/3 and told me "I've never heard of anyone staying only two days, why were you REALLY there?". They didn't believe that I'd gone because "it's there". They asked how much money I made and then chose to run a criminal background check on me. The whole ordeal took over 45 minutes. . .
They saw I had an entry stamp from SDQ on 9/1 and an exit on 9/3 and told me "I've never heard of anyone staying only two days, why were you REALLY there?". They didn't believe that I'd gone because "it's there". They asked how much money I made and then chose to run a criminal background check on me. The whole ordeal took over 45 minutes. . .
I can understand a certain amount of brusqueness on his part if he suspected I was some sort of criminal. I wasn't expecting any courtesy, but I don't think it was unreasonable for me to expect the officer to conduct himself professionally. I don't know if YVR has just a few "bad apples" (maybe it was the same officer) or if this is a pattern, but I'm not looking forward to my next flight into YVR, an otherwise wonderful airport.
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As one who's had the good fortune to have travelled widely around the world, this statement sounds a tad pretentious to me but then, you are of course entitled to your opinion. There are plenty of interesting places to travel on this magnificent blueish green orb we inhabit, and for many people Canada and America in particular rank right up there at or near the top of their list of desired destinations. The numbers bear it out with regard to most popular tourism destinations worldwide.
As an Alaska resident I've made many border crossings into Canada by land, though I've also flown into Canada through a variety if gateway cities as well. I always expect Customs to do their duty in any country I visit and as such I think my overall demeanor and comfort level with Customs officials reflect that. Despite my appearance (Beard, longer hair, backpack) and/or occasionally peculiar itineraries, I've generally always been treated with respect and courtesy despite having gotten the second degree on a couple of occasions while entering Canada.
As an Alaska resident I've made many border crossings into Canada by land, though I've also flown into Canada through a variety if gateway cities as well. I always expect Customs to do their duty in any country I visit and as such I think my overall demeanor and comfort level with Customs officials reflect that. Despite my appearance (Beard, longer hair, backpack) and/or occasionally peculiar itineraries, I've generally always been treated with respect and courtesy despite having gotten the second degree on a couple of occasions while entering Canada.
I'm lucky that as a US citizen, the longest I've been detained was about 2 hours. Some of my friends who aren't have experienced 5-7 hour wait times although that was a few years ago and I think now it's not too bad anymore.
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While that may be true for you, my guess is that you've never had to enter the US or Canada as a brown male in the last decade. These days I usually don't get it as much but I'm pretty much resigned to my fate and I will usually schedule long layovers at my point of entry just to be able to make a connecting flight. Just answer the questions and keep calm.
I'm lucky that as a US citizen, the longest I've been detained was about 2 hours. Some of my friends who aren't have experienced 5-7 hour wait times although that was a few years ago and I think now it's not too bad anymore.
I'm lucky that as a US citizen, the longest I've been detained was about 2 hours. Some of my friends who aren't have experienced 5-7 hour wait times although that was a few years ago and I think now it's not too bad anymore.
This picture was taken in 1999. Would you let me into your country?
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These are indeed different times and no doubt being an American of French/Scottish descent has likely expeditied matters somewhat for me. The primary concerns that Canadian Customs have expressed to me over the past ten years have been guns and drugs. Guns was a big one, though. I seemed to have that gunrunner look - at least in the eyes of Canadian customs officials. I once had an agent at an Idaho border checkpoint ask me three times if I was really certain I didn't have any guns or weapons in my truck. He then detained me for about an hour while he assumedly ran my name through all manner of criminal databases. Oddly enough, my truck was never inspected.
Way back in 1999 was treated to a harangue by the car rental clerk at Calgary airport about the evils of bringing guns into Canada. It's worth noting I don't even own one, let alone travel with one.
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The Canadians do seem obsessed with guns. Crossing into Canada this past summer with child, cat and bicycles in the mommy style station wagon I was repeatedly asked about guns, knives, pepper spray, etc. Did I look like a gun runner?
Way back in 1999 was treated to a harangue by the car rental clerk at Calgary airport about the evils of bringing guns into Canada. It's worth noting I don't even own one, let alone travel with one.
Way back in 1999 was treated to a harangue by the car rental clerk at Calgary airport about the evils of bringing guns into Canada. It's worth noting I don't even own one, let alone travel with one.
I'm sure Canada gets lots of Americans who try to cross the border with guns, in some cases without even thinking it would be an issue.
Furthermore, I'm sure there are lots of gun runners who don't fit whatever image you might have in your mind. Just as there are little old grannies who smuggle drugs.
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Well, Canada has strict gun laws (and good for them!), while the US, er, doesn't.
I'm sure Canada gets lots of Americans who try to cross the border with guns, in some cases without even thinking it would be an issue.
Furthermore, I'm sure there are lots of gun runners who don't fit whatever image you might have in your mind. Just as there are little old grannies who smuggle drugs.
I'm sure Canada gets lots of Americans who try to cross the border with guns, in some cases without even thinking it would be an issue.
Furthermore, I'm sure there are lots of gun runners who don't fit whatever image you might have in your mind. Just as there are little old grannies who smuggle drugs.
As for the way you say "I'm sure" about guns at the border and what I might have in mind: speculation on your part does not make for a convincing post.
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The Canadians do seem obsessed with guns. Crossing into Canada this past summer with child, cat and bicycles in the mommy style station wagon I was repeatedly asked about guns, knives, pepper spray, etc. Did I look like a gun runner?
Way back in 1999 was treated to a harangue by the car rental clerk at Calgary airport about the evils of bringing guns into Canada. It's worth noting I don't even own one, let alone travel with one.
Way back in 1999 was treated to a harangue by the car rental clerk at Calgary airport about the evils of bringing guns into Canada. It's worth noting I don't even own one, let alone travel with one.
They also have a personal interest in whether or not you're carrying a weapon.
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