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Tizzette Jul 13, 2012 8:49 am

I haven't seen any problems with pets either. I like 'em. However, just chatting with friends about how emotional support animals are now being allowed to fly in the cabin, the very first thing that popped out was the stated desire to get their own pet certified so it could avoid the hold or staying home in the kennel. So as this knowledge gets spread, you will see more abuse of it.

katstarr Jul 13, 2012 11:52 am

I wrote about this exact topic on my blog yesterday after a woman and her big yellow lab sat directly behind me on a flight this weekend! Here's my post - please read it!

Kathy

http://www.willrunformiles.com/2012/...planes-as.html

ajax Jul 13, 2012 11:59 am


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 18919109)
One wan showed with three dogs as Emotional Support Animal.

Now that is just absurd.

ft101 Jul 13, 2012 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by IFlyHarder (Post 18922877)
Admittedly I only fly one to two times per month, but I find myself on a flight with a support animal only about twice a year.

How many of them were pot-bellied pigs or miniature horses?

katstarr Jul 13, 2012 1:55 pm

is there any comparable requirement re: emotional support animals applicable to hotels?

Yaatri Jul 13, 2012 2:12 pm


Originally Posted by katstarr (Post 18924818)
is there any comparable requirement re: emotional support animals applicable to hotels?

I think, there was a post here about that. I can't remember the details, but a lady wrote something about an incident with bringing her emotional support animal to a hotel room.

IFlyHarder Jul 13, 2012 2:53 pm


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 18924689)
How many of them were pot-bellied pigs or miniature horses?

Unfortunately none.
I'm the kind of person that finds amusement in things. I think it would be fun to see a pot-bellied pig or a miniature horse on a plane.

I never quite understand those that get huffy over things that really don't affect them.

I know, I know, some people, including the person that posted the blog link, feel mild allergy symptoms, and some profess to experience profound symptoms. But I wonder if there are data that show any evidence of an increased risk of anaphylaxis due to animals, service or otherwise, in a airplane cabin. Or even data that show an increase in less-severe allergy-related illness.

Really, it seems like much ado about nothing.

mapleg Jul 13, 2012 3:45 pm

Maybe a kid should try and get on with an aquarium full of tadpoles, as support, not to test out liquids and airport security, of course.

orthar Jul 13, 2012 4:22 pm


Originally Posted by IFlyHarder (Post 18925146)
Unfortunately none.
I'm the kind of person that finds amusement in things. I think it would be fun to see a pot-bellied pig or a miniature horse on a plane.

I never quite understand those that get huffy over things that really don't affect them.

I know, I know, some people, including the person that posted the blog link, feel mild allergy symptoms, and some profess to experience profound symptoms. But I wonder if there are data that show any evidence of an increased risk of anaphylaxis due to animals, service or otherwise, in a airplane cabin. Or even data that show an increase in less-severe allergy-related illness.

Really, it seems like much ado about nothing.

According to your reasoning, I should be able to fly with my hypothetical twin babies + pet snake, all for free. I simply cannot deal with the emotional stress of traveling without them, and neither of us understand why it would bother the other passengers.

Yaatri Jul 13, 2012 4:37 pm

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Originally Posted by orthar

Originally Posted by IFlyHarder (Post 18925146)
Unfortunately none.
I'm the kind of person that finds amusement in things. I think it would be fun to see a pot-bellied pig or a miniature horse on a plane.

I never quite understand those that get huffy over things that really don't affect them.

I know, I know, some people, including the person that posted the blog link, feel mild allergy symptoms, and some profess to experience profound symptoms. But I wonder if there are data that show any evidence of an increased risk of anaphylaxis due to animals, service or otherwise, in a airplane cabin. Or even data that show an increase in less-severe allergy-related illness.

Really, it seems like much ado about nothing.

According to your reasoning, I should be able to fly with my hypothetical twin babies + pet snake, all for free. I simply cannot deal with the emotional stress of traveling without them, and neither of us understand why it would bother the other passengers.

That's a good argument I had put forth. I need my wife and teenage sons for emotional support.
Clearly peeople are abusing it. A woman with three dogs for emotional support.
One has to be able to claim that tjey have a disbility that the animal helps them cope with. One claim was that their pet fetched their medicines for them.
I don't need a pet. In my family we fetch things for each other.

Yaatri Jul 13, 2012 4:44 pm

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Originally Posted by katstarr
I wrote about this exact topic on my blog yesterday after a woman and her big yellow lab sat directly behind me on a flight this weekend! Here's my post - please read it!

Kathy

http://www.willrunformiles.com/2012/...planes-as.html

You can experience India on a flight. Pigs, horses cow with all the droppings. If some one could bring a cobra for emotional trip, it would be quiete authentic. Since India is a por country, you can have that experience only on the ground. American innovation, ingenuity and technology can bring that experience to you live at 35000 feet.
:D

IFlyHarder Jul 13, 2012 5:17 pm


Originally Posted by orthar (Post 18925617)
According to your reasoning, I should be able to fly with my hypothetical twin babies + pet snake, all for free. I simply cannot deal with the emotional stress of traveling without them, and neither of us understand why it would bother the other passengers.

Generally, when one has to exaggerate to try to make a point, one doesn't really have a logical point.
But seriously, how does your "point" address my reasoning?
I am questioning the validity of harm caused to fellow passengers by the presence of a service animal. I am also questioning the professional credentials of people suggesting they know about mental health diagnoses and treatment.

Finally, I am wondering why people really care about it so much?

Tizzette Jul 13, 2012 7:50 pm

Nobody has been against legitimate service animals in the traditional sense, such as seeing eye dogs. There may even be a few cases a service animal on a plane for an emotional disability could be legitimate, although one wonders if someone is that bad off whether they should be flying without a human attendant. Mostly it is a grand opportunity for a trumped up excuse to bring pets on the plane free instead of suffering in the hold or paying for a kennel. As far as allergies, I agree that many times those are trumped up, too.

I'm not against pets on a plane. I'd like to be able to buy my dog the seat next to me, if he needs to fly someplace. So far he hasn't needed to.

mules Jul 13, 2012 9:23 pm

Earlier this spring I read this book: http://www.amazon.com/Until-Tuesday-...ywords=tuesday

The dog performs all the expected service dog duties - picking things up, steading the man on stairs, etc. What was beautiful is how the dog helps this former soldier with his PSTD and anxiety. The dog truly changed his life for the better.

Yeah, there are certainly people who will take advantage of the system. I think though that the system is worth preserving despite any abuses.

obscure2k Jul 13, 2012 9:47 pm


Originally Posted by mules (Post 18926759)
Earlier this spring I read this book: http://www.amazon.com/Until-Tuesday-...ywords=tuesday

The dog performs all the expected service dog duties - picking things up, steading the man on stairs, etc. What was beautiful is how the dog helps this former soldier with his PSTD and anxiety. The dog truly changed his life for the better.

Yeah, there are certainly people who will take advantage of the system. I think though that the system is worth preserving despite any abuses.

+1 ^


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