How do you handle someone sitting in your seat when you board?
#661
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,875
It sounds like she politely asked you to swap, and you agreed. You didn't need to "kick up a fuss to have her ejected", you just needed to say no when she asked can we swap.
I don't see how she did anything wrong here. There are some people who would consider an aisle to be superior to a window.
I don't see how she did anything wrong here. There are some people who would consider an aisle to be superior to a window.
There is a difference between taking a candy from the jar first, without asking, then saying "Oh, would you mind if I took a piece" versus actually asking. The former could be conceived as thievery.
#662
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,875
Passenger in the wrong seat happens frequently. The one thing from your post I'll disagree with is that your seat poacher was "dim-witted". It's likely she knew exactly what she was doing. Most seat poachers do, IMO. Lots of people simply take what they want, figuring that best case they'll get it, worst case they won't lose anything.
#663
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 335
It sounds like she politely asked you to swap, and you agreed. You didn't need to "kick up a fuss to have her ejected", you just needed to say no when she asked can we swap.
I don't see how she did anything wrong here. There are some people who would consider an aisle to be superior to a window.
I don't see how she did anything wrong here. There are some people who would consider an aisle to be superior to a window.
#664
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Not in DFW
Posts: 2,007
I have had this happen more than a few times. I politely ask them to move after showing them my ticket. If that didn't work I push the call button, which works most of the time. Sometimes the flight attendant trying the path of least resistance encourages me to change seats and I just reply no, that's okay I selected this seat weeks ago. I prefer my seat on my boarding pass. It has worked all but a couple of times. That whole family wants to sit together excuse was hard to overcome if the flight attendant was sympathetic.
I did have a man who had a middle seat intentionally spill his drink on the aisle seat he had tried to poach. Then he kindly offered to sit in the wet seat, until I pointed out to him cushions are easily switched. I had to jam my portfolio in between the two seats because his legs kept "drifting" into my space.
I did have a man who had a middle seat intentionally spill his drink on the aisle seat he had tried to poach. Then he kindly offered to sit in the wet seat, until I pointed out to him cushions are easily switched. I had to jam my portfolio in between the two seats because his legs kept "drifting" into my space.
#665
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#666
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Scarborough
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People these days have become inconsiderate and try to get away with it everywhere.
It's really prevalent in NorthAmerica though, compared to other places.
These days I prefer the aisle compared to window, as these new thin cramped seats make you wanna get out and have a break from sitting.
It's bad on a 3x4x3 rather than a 2 x 3 or 2 x 4 config.
Tough situation on longhaul flights.
It's really prevalent in NorthAmerica though, compared to other places.
These days I prefer the aisle compared to window, as these new thin cramped seats make you wanna get out and have a break from sitting.
It's bad on a 3x4x3 rather than a 2 x 3 or 2 x 4 config.
Tough situation on longhaul flights.
#667
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 416
It sounds like she politely asked you to swap, and you agreed. You didn't need to "kick up a fuss to have her ejected", you just needed to say no when she asked can we swap.
I don't see how she did anything wrong here. There are some people who would consider an aisle to be superior to a window.
I don't see how she did anything wrong here. There are some people who would consider an aisle to be superior to a window.
She didn't "politely" ask to swap. She took his seat, knowing she was in the wrong seat, then pretended to ask. She ALREADY took it, she didn't ask for it first.
There is a difference between taking a candy from the jar first, without asking, then saying "Oh, would you mind if I took a piece" versus actually asking. The former could be conceived as thievery.
There is a difference between taking a candy from the jar first, without asking, then saying "Oh, would you mind if I took a piece" versus actually asking. The former could be conceived as thievery.
#668
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 6,580
If he had said "no thanks", he would have been able to sit in his assigned seat and that would have been the end of it. For some reason, he agreed to the swap and is now blaming her for it. She could have handled it differently, but at the end of the day, he consented.
#669
Join Date: Apr 2017
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Eating the candy without permission would be thievery. Taking it out of the jar, asking for permission, and then putting it back when told no would not be considered thievery.
If he had said "no thanks", he would have been able to sit in his assigned seat and that would have been the end of it. For some reason, he agreed to the swap and is now blaming her for it. She could have handled it differently, but at the end of the day, he consented.
If he had said "no thanks", he would have been able to sit in his assigned seat and that would have been the end of it. For some reason, he agreed to the swap and is now blaming her for it. She could have handled it differently, but at the end of the day, he consented.
His misstep does not excuse the woman's action. You say she did nothing wrong, that is patently untrue.
#670
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: EMA (how boring) but BHX is more convenient.
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I've never had this happen to me as the only time there was someone sitting in my seat (before I was aware that this is a 'thing'), a FA swooped in and sorted it before I'd finished double checking which seat was mine.
If this happens to me, this is what I plan to do.
1. Ask the person asking me to swap to show me the other seat.
2. Upon seeing the seat, take it upon myself to pro-actively offer the seat that the pair has 'up front' (should this be the case) to someone 'down back'. E.g. "This couple would like to sit together. If you could swap your seat with this lady's seat up front, then they could sit together."
3. Then watch to see if there is some backpedalling once the 'solution' becomes one of the pair swapping a good seat for a worse one.
If this happens to me, this is what I plan to do.
1. Ask the person asking me to swap to show me the other seat.
2. Upon seeing the seat, take it upon myself to pro-actively offer the seat that the pair has 'up front' (should this be the case) to someone 'down back'. E.g. "This couple would like to sit together. If you could swap your seat with this lady's seat up front, then they could sit together."
3. Then watch to see if there is some backpedalling once the 'solution' becomes one of the pair swapping a good seat for a worse one.
#671
Join Date: Jun 2014
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#672
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You don't get out of a theft charge because you claim you borrowed it without permission and then gave it back when confronted. That doesn't wash.
She poached the seat. STOLE it.
#673
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 416
I've never had this happen to me as the only time there was someone sitting in my seat (before I was aware that this is a 'thing'), a FA swooped in and sorted it before I'd finished double checking which seat was mine.
If this happens to me, this is what I plan to do.
1. Ask the person asking me to swap to show me the other seat.
2. Upon seeing the seat, take it upon myself to pro-actively offer the seat that the pair has 'up front' (should this be the case) to someone 'down back'. E.g. "This couple would like to sit together. If you could swap your seat with this lady's seat up front, then they could sit together."
3. Then watch to see if there is some backpedalling once the 'solution' becomes one of the pair swapping a good seat for a worse one.
If this happens to me, this is what I plan to do.
1. Ask the person asking me to swap to show me the other seat.
2. Upon seeing the seat, take it upon myself to pro-actively offer the seat that the pair has 'up front' (should this be the case) to someone 'down back'. E.g. "This couple would like to sit together. If you could swap your seat with this lady's seat up front, then they could sit together."
3. Then watch to see if there is some backpedalling once the 'solution' becomes one of the pair swapping a good seat for a worse one.
#675
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 814
Agreed. I was in Jolly Olde England a few years ago when one fellow began a loud conversation on his cell phone in the quiet car of a train (cell usage was clearly marked as a no-no). Immediately, he was asked to stop and when he made excuses, at least 5 other people chimed in that it was the quiet car and he should go to another car if he wanted to talk on the phone. He left the quiet car. We in North America all to often get the behavior we tolerate. Even when we don't like it.