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jlemon Oct 10, 19 11:00 am


Originally Posted by Toshbaf (Post 31611564)
51. This airline introduced a new front cabin service it called "Preferred Service" featuring "extra-wide, first class, two-by-two leather seating" with 37 inch seat pitch in "the entire front half of every plane". And as a introductory promotion, the air carrier in question offered its passengers "Preferred Service" at no extra charge on a first-come, first-serve basis until June 4 of 1985 when it was officially introduced. A senior executive with the airline made this statement concerning the new front cabin service: "Introducing everything you'd expect from a first class seat. Except the stupid price." Identify the airline as well as its executive who made this statement.

Midwest Express, CEO Timothy Hoeksema

51. That's a great guess. I remember flying on board Midwest Express MD-80 aircraft from SFO to MKE and also from MKE to LAX. The entire cabin was configured with two-by-two leather seating and the service was very nice. It was a great little airline.

However, the air carrier in question wasn't Midwest Express and thus Mr. Hoeksema did not make the above statement.


jrl767 Oct 11, 19 10:56 am

44- as noted, I originally had two ideas regarding a small twin-jet operating ORD-LGA with three stops, but all the routings I could envision for a TWA DC-9-10 also involved PIT

so let’s try an American 727-23 via Detroit (DTW), Rochester (ROC), and Syracuse (SYR)

57- Fresno (FAT) perhaps

jlemon Oct 11, 19 11:16 am


Originally Posted by jrl767 (Post 31617153)
44- as noted, I originally had two ideas regarding a small twin-jet operating ORD-LGA with three stops, but all the routings I could envision for a TWA DC-9-10 also involved PIT

so let’s try an American 727-23 via Detroit (DTW), Rochester (ROC), and Syracuse (SYR)

57- Fresno (FAT) perhaps

44. It wasn't American, the equipment wasn't a B727-100 and stops were not made at Detroit, Rochester or Syracuse. Nor was TWA involved and the equipment wasn't a DC-9-10 either.

So here's a hint: one of the stops was a small city which had scheduled jet service only for a relatively short period of time as the airline in question then elected to serve this destination with commuter turboprop equipment operated on a code sharing basis by one of its regional affiliates.

57. Nope.....but you're getting close!

jlemon Oct 14, 19 11:27 am


Originally Posted by jlemon (Post 31587489)

Please limit your response to two quiz items per day so that all may participate. And as always, we are looking for complete and specific answers here. Thanks! :cool:

44. It's 1976 and you are in Chicago. You need to travel to New York City for a meeting and have found an interesting three stop direct flight operated daily with jet equipment from O'Hare to La Guardia. You will depart ORD just before 2:00 pm and arrive into LGA at 6:45 pm. Identify the airline, the three stops in order and the aircraft. It wasn't American or TWA and the aircraft wasn't a BAC One-Eleven, Boeing 727-100 or Douglas DC-9-10. The stops were not made at IND, DAY, PIT, DTW, ROC or SYR. Please see hint with post # 16758.

49. In 1984 this air carrier was operating a direct two stop flight on weekdays from Salt Lake City (SLC) to Reno (RNO) with jet equipment. A snack followed by breakfast was served on this flight. Identify the airline, both stops and the aircraft type. It wasn't United or America West and stops were not made at ELY, EKO, PHX or LAS. Aircraft was a Boeing 737-200.

The next eight quiz items all have a time line of 1985.....

50. You've just completed project work in Toronto and have been invited by friends to visit with them at their beachfront residence in Kapalua, Maui. You've found a direct flight from YYZ to OGG which makes two stops en route and operates daily. The flight arrives into Kahului in time for you to join your friends for dinner at the Sea House Restaurant in Napili just down the beach from their home. Name the airline you'll be flying with, both stops and the equipment.

51. This airline introduced a new front cabin service it called "Preferred Service" featuring "extra-wide, first class, two-by-two leather seating" with 37 inch seat pitch in "the entire front half of every plane". And as a introductory promotion, the air carrier in question offered its passengers "Preferred Service" at no extra charge on a first-come, first-serve basis until June 4 of 1985 when it was officially introduced. A senior executive with the airline made this statement concerning the new front cabin service: "Introducing everything you'd expect from a first class seat. Except the stupid price." Identify the airline as well as its executive who made this statement. It wasn't Midwest Express and Mr. Tim Hoeksema did not make this statement.

52. You are back in New York City and have been working out of an office located close to La Guardia Airport. Following dinner one evening, you are summoned to an urgent meeting in Los Angeles the next morning. There's a flight departing LGA just before 9:30 pm which you should be able to catch in time which will get you into LAX just before 1:30 am with one stop being made en route. Name the air carrier, the stop and the aircraft. ANSWERED - Eastern operating a Boeing 757-200 via PHL and this flight continued on from LAX to SAN

53. Now you are in Miami and need to travel to Atlanta for a dinner meeting. Ah, here's an interesting flight which makes one stop en route and operates daily except on Saturdays. Hmmm......there's no first class available on this flight as the aircraft is in an all-coach configuration. What the heck, you book a seat anyway. Identify the airline, the stop and the equipment.

55. You're now on your way direct to San Diego from Tulsa and your flight which operates six days a week will be making two stops en route. What airline are you traveling on, what are the locations of the two stops and what is the equipment?

56. And once again, it's time to go sailing! Your sailing buddy's catamaran is moored near the Princess Juliana Airport on St. Maarten so you are off to the Caribbean from Los Angeles with two stops being made en route from LAX to SXM. Name the air carrier, both stops and the aircraft type.

57. At this time in 1985, this airline was operating flights with DC-9-30 equipment from seven different cities nonstop to LAX. Identify the air carrier and all seven cities. It was Pacific Southwest Airlines (PSA) with service from LAS, OAK, SAN, SFO, SJC, RNO and ___ . And the last airport wasn't FAT, PHX or TUS.

59. This airline was operating direct one stop service from Lihue (LIH) on Kauai to Los Angeles (LAX) on a daily basis at this time. Identify the air carrier, the stop and the equipment. ANSWERED - United operating a Super DC-8-71 LAX - LIH - ITO - LAX.

A new week and we are still looking for a number of answers here......

Seat 2A Oct 14, 19 11:53 pm

Hey now - checkin' in from a life on the rails. Doubt if any of you are aware of this, but I won't be home until December 6th. So when JL gets done with this batch of questions, here's hoping AT LEAST ONE OF YOU is willing to take up the slack and formulate a few questions (10 would be nice) of your own. Surprise us with your hitherto unknown abilities! G'wan! Become an internet star! Start researching those questions on sites like timetableimages.com or departedflights.com now and you might surprise yourself at how good you are at this! ^^

52. You are back in New York City and have been working out of an office located close to La Guardia Airport. Following dinner one evening, you are summoned to an urgent meeting in Los Angeles the next morning. There's a flight departing LGA just before 9:30 pm which you should be able to catch in time which will get you into LAX just before 1:30 am with one stop being made en route. Name the air carrier, the stop and the aircraft.
It was Eastern operating a Boeing 757-200. Still looking for the stop which wasn't made at ATL, MCI, STL, ORD, RDU or GSO.

Given the timing, I'm thinking this flight stopped on the east coast. Let's go with... Philadelphia

59. This airline was operating direct one stop service from Lihue (LIH) on Kauai to Los Angeles (LAX) on a daily basis at this time. Identify the air carrier, the stop and the equipment.
It was United operating a Super DC-8-71.Still looking for the stop which wasn't KOA.

Gotta be Maui (OGG)

I leave you with a couple of pictures from my current rail adventures...

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...34f228028b.jpg

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3a103daf5a.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5ba517ee0c.jpg

jlemon Oct 15, 19 10:36 am


Originally Posted by Seat 2A (Post 31629278)
Hey now - checkin' in from a life on the rails. Doubt if any of you are aware of this, but I won't be home until December 6th. So when JL gets done with this batch of questions, here's hoping AT LEAST ONE OF YOU is willing to take up the slack and formulate a few questions (10 would be nice) of your own. Surprise us with your hitherto unknown abilities! G'wan! Become an internet star! Start researching those questions on sites like timetableimages.com or departedflights.com now and you might surprise yourself at how good you are at this! ^^

52. You are back in New York City and have been working out of an office located close to La Guardia Airport. Following dinner one evening, you are summoned to an urgent meeting in Los Angeles the next morning. There's a flight departing LGA just before 9:30 pm which you should be able to catch in time which will get you into LAX just before 1:30 am with one stop being made en route. Name the air carrier, the stop and the aircraft.
It was Eastern operating a Boeing 757-200. Still looking for the stop which wasn't made at ATL, MCI, STL, ORD, RDU or GSO.

Given the timing, I'm thinking this flight stopped on the east coast. Let's go with... Philadelphia

59. This airline was operating direct one stop service from Lihue (LIH) on Kauai to Los Angeles (LAX) on a daily basis at this time. Identify the air carrier, the stop and the equipment.
It was United operating a Super DC-8-71.Still looking for the stop which wasn't KOA.

Gotta be Maui (OGG)

I leave you with a couple of pictures from my current rail adventures...

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...34f228028b.jpg

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3a103daf5a.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5ba517ee0c.jpg

52. Correct! And this flight continued on from LAX to San Diego. Here's the complete sched....

EA 409: New York LaGuardia (LGA) 9:20p - 10:01p Philadelphia (PHL) 10:40p - 1:22a Los Angeles (LAX) 2:10a - 2:53a San Diego (SAN)
Freq: Daily
Service classes: F/Y
Meal service: Snack PHL-LAX
Equip: 757

BTW, according to the OAG, Eastern was the only airline operating 757 service into LAX and SAN at this time in early 1985.

59. A very logical guess. But no, this United Super DC-8-71 flight did not stop at OGG on Maui. Please guess again, sir!
Here's a hint: UA was the only airline operating nonstop service from Lihue (LIH) to the stop in question in early 1985.

And thanks for the beautiful photos! Are we talking New England here or perhaps upper New York State? I was initially planning a road trip this month up to Great Smoky Mountains National Park and the Blue Ridge Parkway in order to catch the fall colors....but then the Tahiti trip came up and we will depart in just a couple of weeks to Papeete instead.

Herb687 Oct 15, 19 5:27 pm


Originally Posted by Seat 2A (Post 31629278)
59. This airline was operating direct one stop service from Lihue (LIH) on Kauai to Los Angeles (LAX) on a daily basis at this time. Identify the air carrier, the stop and the equipment.
It was United operating a Super DC-8-71.Still looking for the stop which wasn't KOA.
Gotta be Maui (OGG)

I'm going with Hilo (ITO). Might have been a round-robin routing LAX-LIH-ITO-LAX.

jlemon Oct 15, 19 5:50 pm


Originally Posted by Herb687 (Post 31632254)
I'm going with Hilo (ITO). Might have been a round-robin routing LAX-LIH-ITO-LAX.

59. Well, sir, you are absolutely correct! Here's the complete round-robin sched....

UA 203: Los Angeles (LAX) 10:50a - 3:00p Lihue (LIH) 3:40p - 4:36p Hilo (ITO) 5:25p - 12:15a Los Angeles (LAX)
Freq: Daily
Service classes: F/Y
Meal services: Lunch LAX-LIH, Dinner ITO-LAX
Equip: Super DC-8-71

BTW, this was the one and only flight between LAX and Hilo at this time.

jrl767 Oct 16, 19 1:14 am


Originally Posted by Seat 2A (Post 31629278)
... here's hoping AT LEAST ONE OF YOU is willing to take up the slack and formulate a few questions ...

I have a (hopefully) intriguing excerpt from my log (Jun 2001 - Feb 2002) that may be of interest — 23 consecutive flights on different aircraft types, seven different airlines

Seat 2A Oct 16, 19 9:08 am


Originally Posted by jrl767 (Post 31633256)
I have a (hopefully) intriguing excerpt from my log (Jun 2001 - Feb 2002) that may be of interest — 23 consecutive flights on different aircraft types, seven different airlines

Looking forward to them, J ^^ And thank you in advance!

jlemon Oct 16, 19 11:32 am


Originally Posted by jlemon (Post 31587489)

Please limit your response to two quiz items per day so that all may participate. And as always, we are looking for complete and specific answers here. Thanks! :cool:

44. It's still 1976 and you are now in Chicago. You need to travel to New York City for a meeting and have found an interesting three stop direct flight operated daily with jet equipment from O'Hare to La Guardia. You will depart ORD just before 2:00 pm and arrive into LGA at 6:45 pm. Identify the airline, the three stops in order and the aircraft. ANSWERED - It was Allegheny operating a DC-9-30 Chicago O'Hare - Erie - Bradford - Elmira - New York LaGuardia

49. In 1984 this air carrier was operating a direct two stop flight on weekdays from Salt Lake City (SLC) to Reno (RNO) with jet equipment. A snack followed by breakfast was served on this flight. Identify the airline, both stops and the aircraft type. ANSWERED- Wien Airlines operating a B737-200 SLC-BOI-SEA-RNO-PHX

The next six quiz items all have a time line of 1985..

50. You've just completed project work in Toronto and have been invited by friends to visit with them at their beachfront residence in Kapalua, Maui. You've found a direct flight from YYZ to OGG which makes two stops en route and operates daily. The flight arrives into Kahului in time for you to join your friends for dinner at the Sea House Restaurant in Napili just down the beach from their home. Name the airline you'll be flying with, both stops and the equipment. ANSWERED - American operating a DC -10 YYZ-ORD-LAX-OGG.

51. This airline introduced a new front cabin service it called "Preferred Service" featuring "extra-wide, first class, two-by-two leather seating" with 37 inch seat pitch in "the entire front half of every plane". And as a introductory promotion, the air carrier in question offered its passengers "Preferred Service" at no extra charge on a first-come, first-serve basis until June 4 of 1985 when it was officially introduced. A senior executive with the airline made this statement concerning the new front cabin service: "Introducing everything you'd expect from a first class seat. Except the stupid price." Identify the airline as well as its executive who made this statement. It wasn't Midwest Express and Mr. Tim Hoeksema did not make this statement. Hint: The airline in question was operating two different twin engine jet aircraft types at this time.

53. Now you are in Miami and need to travel to Atlanta for a dinner meeting. Ah, here's an interesting flight which makes one stop en route and operates daily except on Saturdays. Hmmm......there's no first class available on this flight as the aircraft is in an all-coach configuration. What the heck, you book a seat anyway. Identify the airline, the stop and the equipment. Hint: Aircraft was a twin engine jet and the stop was made in Florida.

55. You're now on your way direct to San Diego from Tulsa and your flight which operates six days a week will be making two stops en route. What airline are you traveling on, what are the locations of the two stops and what is the equipment? Hint: Aircraft was a twin engine jet and the second stop was made in California.

56. And once again, it's time to go sailing! Your sailing buddy's catamaran is moored near the Princess Juliana Airport on St. Maarten so you are off to the Caribbean from Los Angeles with two stops being made en route from LAX to SXM. Name the air carrier, both stops and the aircraft type. ANSWERED - American operating a DC-10 LAX-DFW-SJU-SXM

57. At this time in 1985, this airline was operating flights with DC-9-30 equipment from seven different cities nonstop to LAX. Identify the air carrier and all seven cities. It was Pacific Southwest Airlines (PSA) with service from LAS, OAK, SAN, SFO, SJC, RNO and ___ . And the last airport wasn't FAT, PHX or TUS. Hint: The airport in question was one of PSA's smaller stations.

And here's what we have left. I've also added some hints.

Herb687 Oct 16, 19 5:14 pm


Originally Posted by jlemon
44. It's still 1976 and you are now in Chicago. You need to travel to New York City for a meeting and have found an interesting three stop direct flight operated daily with jet equipment from O'Hare to La Guardia. You will depart ORD just before 2:00 pm and arrive into LGA at 6:45 pm. Identify the airline, the three stops in order and the aircraft. It wasn't American or TWA and the aircraft wasn't a BAC One-Eleven, Boeing 727-100 or Douglas DC-9-10. The stops were not made at IND, DAY, PIT, DTW, ROC or SYR. Please see hint with post # 16758. Additional hint: Aircraft was a twin engine jet and one of the stops was made in New York state.

How about Allegheny with a DC-9-30 via Erie and Binghamton?


[From 1985] 56. And once again, it's time to go sailing! Your sailing buddy's catamaran is moored near the Princess Juliana Airport on St. Maarten so you are off to the Caribbean from Los Angeles with two stops being made en route from LAX to SXM. Name the air carrier, both stops and the aircraft type. Hint: Aircraft was a wide body jet and the second stop was made in the Caribbean.
Will guess Eastern L-1011 LAX-MIA-SJU-SXM

jlemon Oct 16, 19 5:58 pm


Originally Posted by Herb687 (Post 31635967)
How about Allegheny with a DC-9-30 via Erie and Binghamton?

Will guess Eastern L-1011 LAX-MIA-SJU-SXM

44. You are off to an excellent start as Allegheny operating a DC-9-30 is correct! And Erie (ERI) was indeed the first stop. But remember: we are looking for a total of three stops here and Binghamton wasn't one of them.

56. Another excellent guess! However, the air carrier in question wasn't Eastern, the equipment wasn't an L-1011 and the first stop was not made at Miami. On the plus side, the second stop was indeed made in San Juan (SJU).

Please guess again, sir!

YVR Cockroach Oct 16, 19 10:07 pm


Originally Posted by jlemon (Post 31634726)
49. In 1984 this air carrier was operating a direct two stop flight on weekdays from Salt Lake City (SLC) to Reno (RNO) with jet equipment. A snack followed by breakfast was served on this flight. Identify the airline, both stops and the aircraft type. It wasn't United or America West and stops were not make at ELY, EKO, PHX or LAS. Aircraft was a Boeing 737-200. Hint: This flight first headed to the northwest and then to the south.

The original incarnation of Frontier, stopping in BOI and GEG?


50. You've just completed project work in Toronto and have been invited by friends to visit with them at their beachfront residence in Kapalua, Maui. You've found a direct flight from YYZ to OGG which makes two stops en route and operates daily. The flight arrives into Kahului in time for you to join your friends for dinner at the Sea House Restaurant in Napili just down the beach from their home. Name the airline you'll be flying with, both stops and the equipment. Hint: Aircraft was a wide body jet..
Canadian Pacific. 747-200 YVR, HNL?

Herb687 Oct 17, 19 11:00 am


Originally Posted by jlemon (Post 31636103)
44. You are off to an excellent start as Allegheny operating a DC-9-30 is correct! And Erie (ERI) was indeed the first stop. But remember: we are looking for a total of three stops here and Binghamton wasn't one of them.

I missed that it was three stops rather than two. Let's try ORD-ERI-IPT-ELM-LGA on that AL DC-9-30.


56. Another excellent guess! However, the air carrier in question wasn't Eastern, the equipment wasn't an L-1011 and the first stop was not made at Miami. On the plus side, the second stop was indeed made in San Juan (SJU).
AA D10 LAX-DFW-SJU-SXM?


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