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jrl767 Oct 2, 19 11:41 am

sad news out of Hartford this morning ... the Collings Foundation B-17G crashed on landing, apparently after suffering an engine failure

jlemon Oct 2, 19 12:30 pm


Originally Posted by jrl767 (Post 31586496)
sad news out of Hartford this morning ... the Collings Foundation B-17G crashed on landing, apparently after suffering an engine failure

Most unfortunately, it appears there may have been multiple fatalities due to this crash at Bradley International (BDL) according to local reports with the airfield reportedly now being closed. It has also been reported there were thirteen persons on board the aircraft including the flight crew.

jlemon Oct 2, 19 4:08 pm

Our thoughts and prayers are with the flight crew and the passengers who were on board the B-17 that crashed earlier today at Bradley International Airport (BDL) as well as with the families and friends of the crew and passengers. BDL is reportedly hosting an event this week featuring historic aircraft which the B-17 was apparently taking part in. News reports remain sketchy concerning any possible survivors and photos of the crash site appear to indicate the B-17 was destroyed in the fire that followed the crash.

Meantime, we will now return to the OTAQ&D with a new set of quiz items while hoping for the best concerning the terrible tragedy today up at BDL.....

Please limit your response to two quiz items per day so that all may participate. And as always, we are looking for complete and specific answers here. Thanks! :cool:

43. It's the spring of 1976 and you are in Portland, Oregon. You've been invited by a friend to visit Fairbanks and have found the only direct one stop flight from PDX to FAI. What air carrier will you be flying with, where will you stop and what type of equipment will you be traveling on? ANSWERED

44. It's still 1976 and you are now in Chicago. You need to travel to New York City for a meeting and have found an interesting three stop direct flight operated daily with jet equipment from O'Hare to La Guardia. You will depart ORD just before 2:00 pm and arrive into LGA at 6:45 pm. Identify the airline, the three stops in order and the aircraft. It wasn't American or TWA and the aircraft wasn't a BAC One-Eleven, Boeing 727-100 or Douglas DC-9-10. The stops were not made at IND, DAY, PIT, DTW, ROC or SYR. Please see hint with post # 16758. Additional hint: Aircraft was a twin engine jet and one of the stops was made in New York state.

45. Now it's 1979 and you need to travel in the other direction from the New York City area to Chicago. You've found an interesting two stop flight operated daily with a jet from Newark to O'Hare. You will depart EWR just after 4:00 pm and arrive into ORD at 6:50 pm. Name the air carrier, both stops in order and the equipment. ANSWERED

46. Also in 1979, the film "Moonraker" starring Roger Moore as British secret agent 007 James Bond was released. In the film, James Bond can be seen being thrown out of an aircraft while it is in flight. Very fortunately, Mr. Bond survives. Identify the aircraft type and the airline that operated it in scheduled passenger service when it wasn't appearing in a 007 movie. ANSWERED

47. Staying with the film "Moonraker" for a moment, James Bond can be seen viewing an airport in the distance where a Lockheed L-188 Electra has just taken off and is departing the area. Name the airport. ANSWERED

48. It's 1983 and you have just been awarded a consulting contract in San Diego. Your location is Washington, DC and you have found a direct one stop flight from Dulles (IAD) to Lindbergh Field (SAN). First class is available, of course. What airline will you be flying with, where will you stop and what kind of aircraft will you be traveling on? ANSWERED

49. In 1984 this air carrier was operating a direct two stop flight on weekdays from Salt Lake City (SLC) to Reno (RNO) with jet equipment. A snack followed by breakfast was served on this flight. Identify the airline, both stops and the aircraft type. It wasn't United or America West and stops were not make at ELY, EKO, PHX or LAS. Aircraft was a Boeing 737-200. Hint: This flight first headed to the northwest and then to the south.

The next eleven quiz items all have a time line of 1985.....

50. You've just completed project work in Toronto and have been invited by friends to visit with them at their beachfront residence in Kapalua, Maui. You've found a direct flight from YYZ to OGG which makes two stops en route and operates daily. The flight arrives into Kahului in time for you to join your friends for dinner at the Sea House Restaurant in Napili just down the beach from their home. Name the airline you'll be flying with, both stops and the equipment. Hint: Aircraft was a wide body jet.

51. This airline introduced a new front cabin service it called "Preferred Service" featuring "extra-wide, first class, two-by-two leather seating" with 37 inch seat pitch in "the entire front half of every plane". And as a introductory promotion, the air carrier in question offered its passengers "Preferred Service" at no extra charge on a first-come, first-serve basis until June 4 of 1985 when it was officially introduced. A senior executive with the airline made this statement concerning the new front cabin service: "Introducing everything you'd expect from a first class seat. Except the stupid price." Identify the airline as well as its executive who made this statement. It wasn't Midwest Express and Mr. Tim Hoeksema did not make this statement. Hint: The airline in question was operating two different twin engine jet aircraft types at this time.

52. You are back in New York City and have been working out of an office located close to La Guardia Airport. Following dinner one evening, you are summoned to an urgent meeting in Los Angeles the next morning. There's a flight departing LGA just before 9:30 pm which you should be able to catch in time which will get you into LAX just before 1:30 am with one stop being made en route. Name the air carrier, the stop and the aircraft. It was Eastern operating a Boeing 757-200. Still looking for the stop which wasn't made at ATL, MCI, STL, ORD, RDU or GSO.

53. Now you are in Miami and need to travel to Atlanta for a dinner meeting. Ah, here's an interesting flight which makes one stop en route and operates daily except on Saturdays. Hmmm......there's no first class available on this flight as the aircraft is in an all-coach configuration. What the heck, you book a seat anyway. Identify the airline, the stop and the equipment. Hint: Aircraft was a twin engine jet and the stop was made in Florida.

54. If you wanted to fly direct from Syracuse (SYR) to Houston Hobby (HOU) with only one stop being made en route, what air carrier would you call, where would you stop and what kind of aircraft would you be traveling on? ANSWERED

55. You're now on your way direct to San Diego from Tulsa and your flight which operates six days a week will be making two stops en route. What airline are you traveling on, what are the locations of the two stops and what is the equipment? Hint: Aircraft was a twin engine jet and the second stop was made in California.

56. And once again, it's time to go sailing! Your sailing buddy's catamaran is moored near the Princess Juliana Airport on St. Maarten so you are off to the Caribbean from Los Angeles with two stops being made en route from LAX to SXM. Name the air carrier, both stops and the aircraft type. Hint: Aircraft was a wide body jet and the second stop was made in the Caribbean.

57. At this time in 1985, this airline was operating flights with DC-9-30 equipment from seven different cities nonstop to LAX. Identify the air carrier and all seven cities. It was Pacific Southwest Airlines (PSA) with service from LAS, OAK, SAN, SFO, SJC, RNO and ___ . And the last airport wasn't FAT, PHX or TUS. Hint: The airport in question was one of PSA's smaller stations.

58. Also at this same time in 1985, Delta and Western were competing between two particular cities with each airline operating two daily round trip nonstop flights on the route with the same basic jet aircraft type being used by each respective air carrier on all of these flights. DL and WA were also the only two air carriers operating nonstop service in this particular market. Name this city pair as well as the aircraft type. ANSWERED

59. This airline was operating direct one stop service from Lihue (LIH) on Kauai to Los Angeles (LAX) on a daily basis at this time. Identify the air carrier, the stop and the equipment. It was United operating a Super DC-8-71. Still looking for the stop which wasn't KOA.

60. You are back in Chicago and need to travel to Phoenix. You are in no hurry which is a good thing as you have found a very interesting flight which operates six days a week and makes no less than seven intermediate stops en route. Yep, it's time for good old fashioned a milk run! Name the airline, all seven stops in order and the aircraft. ANSWERED

More to come.....

jlemon Oct 2, 19 4:11 pm

Dupe post.....oops!

jrl767 Oct 2, 19 4:36 pm

some of the regular (and occasional) participants may recall I took a ~20-min flight on N93012 at BFI last summer



Originally Posted by jlemon (Post 31587497)
45. Now it's 1979 and you need to travel ... from the New York City area to Chicago. You've found an interesting two stop flight operated daily with a jet from Newark to O'Hare. You will depart EWR just after 4:00 pm and arrive into ORD at 6:50 pm. Name the air carrier, both stops in order and the equipment.

45- opening the bidding with a Piedmont 737-200 that stopped in Roanoke (ROA) and Charleston (CRW)


Originally Posted by jlemon (Post 31587497)
54. If you wanted to fly direct from Syracuse (SYR) to Houston Hobby (HOU) with only one stop being made en route, what air carrier would you call, where would you stop and what kind of aircraft would you be traveling on?

54- sounds like another 737-200 ... Delta, via Atlanta (ATL)

jlemon Oct 2, 19 4:54 pm


Originally Posted by jrl767 (Post 31587589)

45- opening the bidding with a Piedmont 737-200 that stopped in Roanoke (ROA) and Charleston (CRW)

54- sounds like another 737-200 ... Delta, via Atlanta (ATL)

45. Piedmont is correct as is Roanoke being the first stop. However, the equipment wasn't a B737-200 and the second stop was not made at Charleston, WV.

54. Nope, nope and nope!

Please guess again!

jrl767 Oct 2, 19 5:42 pm

45- well, PI had a number of 727-200s on their long-haul routes in the mid- to late 1980s, but I suspect at this time we would still be looking at a 727-100 ... second stop was probably Bristol/Kingsport/Johnson City, aka Tri-Cities (TRI)

54- there wasn’t a lot of service out of SYR to destinations farther afield than ATL, and the flip side of that is that I don’t recall much if any service into HOU from hubs more distant than ATL either ... I flew TWA in from St. Louis (STL) in 1988, but I think that was an artifact of the Ozark acquisition ... on the basis of aircraft size, I’m going to say this was a DC-9-30 operated by Republic with a stop at Detroit (DTW)

jlemon Oct 2, 19 6:33 pm


Originally Posted by jrl767 (Post 31587783)
45- well, PI had a number of 727-200s on their long-haul routes in the mid- to late 1980s, but I suspect at this time we would still be looking at a 727-100 ... second stop was probably Bristol/Kingsport/Johnson City, aka Tri-Cities (TRI)

54- there wasnít a lot of service out of SYR to destinations farther afield than ATL, and the flip side of that is that I donít recall much if any service into HOU from hubs more distant than ATL either ... I flew TWA in from St. Louis (STL) in 1988, but I think that was an artifact of the Ozark acquisition ... on the basis of aircraft size, Iím going to say this was a DC-9-30 operated by Republic with a stop at Detroit (DTW)

45. Correct! Here's the sched....

PI 603: New York Newark (EWR) 4:05p - 5:13p Roanoke (ROA) 5::38p - 6:10p Tri-Cities (TRI) 6:31p - 6:50p Chicago O'Hare (ORD)
Op: Daily
Service class: Y
Equip: B727-100

BTW, Piedmont was also operating two other 727 flights on a daily basis into Chicago at this time with routings of ATL - FAY - ROA - ORD and DCA - CRW - ORD

54. Nope, it wasn't Republic via Detroit (DTW) and the aircraft type wasn't a DC-9-30.

Toshbaf Oct 2, 19 9:29 pm

24. This airline was only serving two destinations in Alaska in early 1982. Name the air carrier and both destinations


Originally Posted by jlemon (Post 31586202)
24. Western Airlines: Yep! Anchorage (ANC): Yep! Juneau (JNU): Nope! And we await the tap in......

Ketchikan?!

jrl767 Oct 2, 19 10:00 pm

54- well, having also eliminated Eastern (by virtue of ruling out both ATL and the DC-9-30), I can only think of one other airline that might have served both SYR and HOU ... American, who would have run a 727 via Chicago (ORD)

Toshbaf Oct 2, 19 10:32 pm

47. Staying with the film "Moonraker" for a moment, James Bond can be seen viewing an airport in the distance where a Lockheed L-188 Electra has just taken off and is departing the area. Name the airport.

Santos Dumont Airport, Rio de Janiero, Brazil. It's the London City, LaGuardia, and Meigs Field of Rio. At one time, there was a very frequent air shuttle to Congonhas Airport in Sao Paulo operated in cooperation with a few other airlines, perhaps VARIG, VASP and Transbrasil, all three now dead.

I don't recall Moonraker much except that it was on TV and in Rio.

WHBM Oct 3, 19 3:29 am

Back from Ireland, was only a one-night visit. Out in the rural middle of the country came out at 7.45 am to the car to find it covered in frost, maybe the first one of the year for the team here (unless S2A has beaten us all to it !).

On the return the BA shared lounge at Dublin T1 has to be the worst on the network, not a seat to be had and quite sad refreshments.


very frequent air shuttle to Congonhas Airport in Sao Paulo operated in cooperation with a few other airlines, perhaps VARIG, VASP and Transbrasil, all three now dead.
I remember that shot in the film too. The shuttle, although co-branded among the various Brazilian airlines (Cruzeiro too) was actually operated wholly by Varig Electras, they were the only carrier there to run the type.


43. It's the spring of 1976 and you are in Portland, Oregon. You've been invited by a friend to visit Fairbanks and have found the only direct one stop flight from PDX to FAI. What air carrier will you be flying with, where will you stop and what type of equipment will you be traveling on?
Pan Am 707 stopping at Seattle.

jlemon Oct 3, 19 10:10 am


Originally Posted by Toshbaf (Post 31588330)
24. This airline was only serving two destinations in Alaska in early 1982. Name the air carrier and both destinations

Ketchikan?!

24. A good guess as Western did serve Ketchikan at one point.....but not in early 1982.

So we know Western was serving Anchorage at this time but wasn't serving Fairbanks, Juneau, Ketchikan, Sitka or Kodiak.

Here's a hint: Western was the first major air carrier to directly serve the destination in question in Alaska and the WA service to this destination in early 1982 did not last very long.

jlemon Oct 3, 19 10:15 am


Originally Posted by jrl767 (Post 31588391)
54- well, having also eliminated Eastern (by virtue of ruling out both ATL and the DC-9-30), I can only think of one other airline that might have served both SYR and HOU ... American, who would have run a 727 via Chicago (ORD)

54. Correct! And the specific aircraft type was a B727-200. Here's the sched....

AA 515: Syracuse (SYR) 9:47a - 10:34a Chicago O'Hare (ORD) 11:14a - 1:39p Houston Hobby (HOU)
Op: Daily
Service classes: F/Y
Meal services: Snack SYR-ORD, Lunch ORD-HOU
Equip: 72S

jlemon Oct 3, 19 10:28 am


Originally Posted by Toshbaf (Post 31588434)
47. Staying with the film "Moonraker" for a moment, James Bond can be seen viewing an airport in the distance where a Lockheed L-188 Electra has just taken off and is departing the area. Name the airport.

Santos Dumont Airport, Rio de Janiero, Brazil. It's the London City, LaGuardia, and Meigs Field of Rio. At one time, there was a very frequent air shuttle to Congonhas Airport in Sao Paulo operated in cooperation with a few other airlines, perhaps VARIG, VASP and Transbrasil, all three now dead.

I don't recall Moonraker much except that it was on TV and in Rio.

47. Santos Dumont Airport (SDU) is correct! I believe the site of the airfield was originally used as a seaplane base by Pan Am and other air carriers until a runway was constructed during the mid 1930's. SDU continues to feature two relatively short runways with the longest only being around 4,341 feet / 1,323 meters in length.


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