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Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion

Old Jun 8, 16, 9:03 pm
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23. Worcester, MA has enjoyed jet service from a variety of airlines over the years. Alas, in early 1994 there was only a single jet flight out of town. Identify the airline, the jet and the destination served.

In light of the fact that the remaining questions in this set fall into the "difficult" category, don't expect any miracles from me on this one, but I'd like to start by proposing that the airline was US, NW, or CO. As an aside, the only flight I ever utilized from there was on US to PIT on a DC9, but this was in the mid 1980s.

All of the airlines you've put forth did indeed provide jet service into Worcester at various times throughout recent history. Alas, none of those airlines were doing so in early 1994. But please - do try again!
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Old Jun 9, 16, 3:19 am
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THE TIMELINE FOR THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS IS MID-1992

3. Way up north in Canada’s Northwest Territory, three airlines vie for your patronage on the fiercely competitive route between Yellowknife (YZF) and Cambridge Bay (YCB). Two of the airlines operate mainline jet equipment while the other utilizes a turbo-prop. Identify each airline and its respective equipment.

5. Further perusal of the 1992 summer schedule reveals a single airline providing the only all economy configured flights between New York area airports and Ft. Lauderdale. Three flights per day are offered, one each from Long Island’s MacArthur Airport (ISP), New Jersey’s Newark International (EWR) and New York’s Kennedy International Airport (JFK). Identify the airline and the single aircraft type it operates on these three routes.
HINT: It ain't Carnival.

6. In mid-1992, passengers desiring nonstop transport between Anchorage and Honolulu were limited to this once a week, Saturday only flight. Identify the airline and aircraft involved.
Who the heck izzit? We know it ain't Hawaiian Air...

10. If you wanted to take advantage of Fifth Freedom rights to fly foreign carriers within North America, Montreal probably offered more options than any other city on the continent. Let’s examine just a couple here: Identify the two foreign airlines operating between Montreal and Chicago. While you’re at it, go ahead and identify which type of aircraft each airline operated on the route.
C'mon now - Montreal to Chicago! Maybe the ultimate 5th Freedom route in North America over the years. Both airlines are European...

12. If you want to fly aboard a 737-400 out of Albuquerque, there’s only a single flight departing each day. Identify the airline and the destination airport.
A N S W E R E D


THE TIMELINE FOR THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS IS SPRING 1994

16. At this time there are four foreign airlines that enjoy Fifth Freedom rights between Los Angeles and Mexico City. Identify each airline and the aircraft it flies on this route.
LACSA A320 and Malaysian 747-400 identified so far... As well as Aerolineas Argentinas with a 747-200. The other airline operated narrow bodied equipment and was from South America.

21. If you live in Nashville and want to fly to West Palm Beach, there’s only one flight per day, albeit a one-stop flight. It’s got some vintage equipment though, and a cheap fare to boot. Identify the airline, the equipment and the enroute stop.

22. Identify the airline that – as of early 1994 - flies mainline jets into more Colorado cities than any other. While you’re at it, identify those Colorado cities as well.

23. Worcester, MA has enjoyed jet service from a variety of airlines over the years. Alas, in early 1994 there was only a single jet flight out of town. Identify the airline, the jet and the destination served.
A N S W E R E D


THE TIMELINE FOR THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS IS EARLY 1996

31. Per the North American OAG referenced for this question, there are four foreign airlines serving Miami with 727-100 equipment. Interestingly, only two routes are involved, i.e. two airlines per each route. Given the regions covered by this OAG, identify the four airlines and – if you like – you may also have a go at the relevant routes.
Hanair & Haiti Trans Air flying PAP-MIA have been correctly identified. The other route is CUN-MIA on which TAESA has also been identified. We need one more... (No esta Mexicana) C'mon, you Gringos! Gimme the right answer!!


THE TIMELINE FOR THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS IS LATE 1997

37. Lots of airlines provide service between the three Washington DC area airports and Chicago. However, only one airline provides nonstop service between Washington’s Dulles International and Chicago’s Midway Airport. Your mission – should you decide to accept it – is to identify both the airline and the aircraft utilized on this route.

40. You want to fly from Chicago to Las Vegas – but man oh man – the fares sure are expensive! But hey! Further investigation reveals that if you’re willing to depart out of Midway Airport – located on the city’s south side – there are two airlines that offer substantially cheaper fares. Identify both airlines as well as the aircraft that each airline operates.
ATA with a 727-200 was one of the airlines...

44. It’s a damp, wintery afternoon in southern Ohio when you get a call from an old friend requesting the pleasure of your company for a weekend of scuba diving in the Cayman Islands. You’re already thinking of how to get there before she’s even completed her request. Thankfully an ad in the Travel Section of last Sunday’s Cincinnati Enquirer shows you the way – a Saturday only nonstop departure straight from Cincinnati to Grand Cayman. Right on! Identify the airline and the aircraft you’ll be flying upon.
HINT: The airline has "International" as part of its title

45. Only two airlines fly jets into Lincoln, Nebraska. Don’t worry about what kind of jets they are or where they come from. Just name the airlines.
A N S W E R E D

48. This airline provided a less expensive option to Air Canada and Canadian Airlines with twice daily one stop service between Calgary and Toronto. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the intermediate stop.

49. Who’d’ve ever thought that there would be sufficient demand to offer not one but three nonstop flights between Nashville and Colorado Springs? Not me. But yes, it turns out that in 1997 there are three almost daily jet flights between these two cities. Identify the airline and the aircraft utilized, please.

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Old Jun 9, 16, 6:06 am
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first of all, thank you for the redacted version of the still-at-large questions!! MUCH easier to read and navigate

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21. If you live in Nashville and want to fly to West Palm Beach, there’s only one flight per day, albeit a one-stop flight. It’s got some vintage equipment though, and a cheap fare to boot. Identify the airline, the equipment and the enroute stop.
I guess 25 years is the threshold for "vintage" in airliner-speak, so the venerable 737-200 would seem to be the jet in question since it entered revenue service in 1968 and we are looking for BNA-PBI service in 1994

irrespective of our esteemed Quizmeister's typed Texas drawl, "cheap fare" of course points pretty directly to Southwest
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40. You want to fly from Chicago to Las Vegas – but man oh man – the fares sure are expensive! But hey! Further investigation reveals that if you’re willing to depart out of Midway Airport – located on the city’s south side – there are two airlines that offer substantially cheaper fares. Identify both airlines as well as the aircraft that each airline operates.
I will apply the second logic step here as well to one of the answers ... Southwest, probably a 737-300

as to the second, how about ATA with a 727-200

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Old Jun 9, 16, 10:00 am
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6.anc-hnl in 1992
Since Hawaiian has been eliminated, I'm going with AS. (I fear this is too obvious though, given that we've now entered obscure airline territory, but I still want to put it on the table.)
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12. US ex-abq in 1992
I'm uncertain as to exactly when US debubbed PIT, but if it was after 1992, PIT is my guess.

My remaining guesses, in order of correctness likelihood , are CLT, LAX, PHL, and BWI.
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Originally Posted by jrl767 View Post
we have already ruled out the state capitol (Helena), and I recall with reasonable certainty that Billings, Bozeman, Great Falls, and Missoula had jet service in the early 90s (one or more of Delta/SkyWest from SLC, Horizon from SEA/GEG, Northwest from MSP, United from DEN) ... I'm thinking there are only two other cities in MT -- Butte (BTM) and Kalispell (FCA) -- that could even be candidates for the answer, and since upthread we recently addressed FCA I'll go out on a limb here with BTM
Yep, Butte was my guess as well. The one and only time I departed from BTM was on board a B727-200 operated by Delta in F to SLC via an intermediate stop in Bozeman. I also remember this was a very turbulent flight on the first leg and there was a considerable crosswind at BZN when we landed. In fact, I spoke with the flight crew while we were on the ground in Bozeman and I seem to recall the Captain stating we were just within limits with regard to a crosswind landing.
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somehow this didn't show up in a timely fashion so I hit "submit" again ... corrected version below

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Originally Posted by Seat 2A View Post

16. At this time there are four foreign airlines that enjoy Fifth Freedom rights between Los Angeles and Mexico City. Identify each airline and the aircraft it flies on this route.
LACSA A320 and Malaysian 747-400 identified so far... What tha - is that all you've got? C'mon now... Think about it! One operated widebodied equipment and the other narrow bodied equipment.
Well, I'll throw a couple of 'em out there....(and wild guesses to be sure):

Aerolineas Argentinas - B747-200

Aero Peru - B727-200
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12- we've ruled out PIT a while back, along with CLT with the hint that the flight then proceeded there; next came speculation about a handful of Midwestern and Texas cities as intermediate stops en route to CLT -- all were rejected

time for backtracking options: (1) PHX, (2) TUS
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10- looking for a pair of Montreal-Chicago Fifth Freedom operators in 1992:
(1) El Al, 767
(2) LOT, 767

I'm sitting in 3D on a Delta A319 at BWI, awaiting pushback for MSP where Seat 1D on a SEA-bound 757 awaits
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Old Jun 9, 16, 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by jrl767 View Post
21. (1994) If you live in Nashville and want to fly to West Palm Beach, there’s only one flight per day, albeit a one-stop flight. It’s got some vintage equipment though, and a cheap fare to boot. Identify the airline, the equipment and the enroute stop.

I guess 25 years is the threshold for "vintage" in airliner-speak, so the venerable 737-200 would seem to be the jet in question since it entered revenue service in 1968 and we are looking for BNA-PBI service in 1994. "Cheap fare" of course points pretty directly to Southwest.

And we’re off and running! Thank you, jrl767! “Venerable” would certainly include the 737-200 by 1994, with the oldest models checking in at 25-26 years old. However, on this particular route we’re looking for a different airline and aircraft type. Additionally we’re looking to identify the enroute stop. I look forward to your next guess!

irrespective of our esteemed Quizmeister's typed Texas drawl…

I might have been inspired by the dialogue from an episode (or was it the actual movie) of Friday Night Lights (or some similar football oriented movie) that was playing on TV in the background of my hotel room. My chair was faced away from the TV and - as is so often the case at home – I never got around to getting up and turning the danged thing off! Or maybe it was the half drunk bottle of cheap whiskey…

40. (Late 1997) You want to fly from Chicago to Las Vegas – but man oh man – the fares sure are expensive! Further investigation reveals that if you’re willing to depart out of Midway Airport – located on the city’s south side – there are two airlines that offer substantially cheaper fares. Identify both airlines as well as the aircraft that each airline operates.

I will apply the second logic step here as well to one of the answers ... Southwest, probably a 737-300. As to the second, how about ATA with a 727-200

Southwest is an excellent guess here given the Midway departure point but in late 1997 it was not yet operating this route. ATA with a 727-200 was however. ^ Now we need just one more airline…
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6. In mid-1992, passengers desiring nonstop transport between Anchorage and Honolulu were limited to this once a week, Saturday only flight. Identify the airline and aircraft involved.

Since Hawaiian has been eliminated, I'm going with AS. (I fear this is too obvious though, given that we've now entered obscure airline territory, but I still want to put it on the table.)

No harm in that, moondog. However, in mid-1992 Alaska was still many years away from inaugurating its first flights to Hawaii. For what it's worth, the airline we're looking for would hardly be called "obscure"...

12. If you want to fly aboard a 737-400 out of Albuquerque in mid-1992, there’s only a single flight departing each day. Identify the airline and the destination airport.

I'm uncertain as to exactly when US debubbed PIT, but if it was after 1992, PIT is my guess. My remaining guesses, in order of correctness likelihood , are CLT, LAX, PHL, and BWI.

We know that the ultimate destination of this flight was Charlotte. This applied to the inbound service as well. What we're looking for then is the enroute stop, which was not all that far from Albuquerque. Please - guess again!

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12. If you want to fly aboard a 737-400 out of Albuquerque, there’s only a single flight departing each day. Identify the airline and the destination airport.

We've ruled out PIT a while back, along with CLT with the hint that the flight then proceeded there; next came speculation about a handful of Midwestern and Texas cities as intermediate stops en route to CLT -- all were rejected

Time for backtracking options: (1) PHX, (2) TUS


Not bad, not bad! Still, no backtracking was involved. The flight could be said to have headed just a bit to the east...

10. (1992) If you wanted to take advantage of Fifth Freedom rights to fly foreign carriers within North America, Montreal probably offered more options than any other city on the continent. Let’s examine just a couple here: Identify the two foreign airlines operating between Montreal and Chicago. While you’re at it, go ahead and identify which type of aircraft each airline operated on the route.

(1) El Al, 767
(2) LOT, 767


A good start! We're looking for different airlines however, one of them operating a US manufactured jet while the other operated a European built jet. Bother were wide bodies.

I'm sitting in 3D on a Delta A319 at BWI, awaiting pushback for MSP where Seat 1D on a SEA-bound 757 awaits

An excellent locale from which to engage the OTAQ&D! ^ Have a great flight!

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16. In the spring of 1994 there are four foreign airlines that enjoy Fifth Freedom rights between Los Angeles and Mexico City. Identify each airline and the aircraft it flies on this route.
LACSA A320 and Malaysian 747-400 identified so far...

Well, I'll throw a couple of 'em out there....(and wild guesses to be sure):

Aerolineas Argentinas - B747-200
Aero Peru - B727-200


And another one bites the dust! Aerolineas Argentinas with a 747-200 is correct! ^ Aero Peru is not, however the country of origin for the other airline is not far from Peru...
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Old Jun 9, 16, 5:23 pm
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12. US ex-abq in 1992
I'm uncertain as to exactly when US debubbed PIT, but if it was after 1992, PIT is my guess.

My remaining guesses, in order of correctness likelihood , are CLT, LAX, PHL, and BWI.
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